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Has it Sold? Thanks
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Neat Vehicle...Thanks
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Did it ever sell? Thanks
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6 hours ago, jdome said:
I have friends in the Jacksonville area with brass Cadillacs and there seems to be brass and other pre-war activity in that corner of FL. I understand that the Zephyrhills show & swap meet attracts all interests of the hobby from brass to hotrod.
If you possibly knew of any Car Shows, Swap Meets, etc in FL that regularly potentially had the attendance of Older Vehicles (Possibly 1916 and/or Previous, etc)...Would potentially be COOL if you would possibly consider passing any info along, Thanks
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6 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:
Earl Beauchamp, past President of the national AACA,
has said on this forum that he has seen very little activity
in early cars in his part of Florida. He lives toward the south.
He wrote that he never sees any pre-war cars that have not
been hot rodded.
I don't know whether the Horseless Carriage Club of America
is active in Florida.
But it is worth being involved locally with some group,
whether or not their cars' years match yours. Joining a club
is a great way to enhance your enjoyment of the hobby.
Potentially somewhat locally involved with a few groups (Though not necessarily an "Official Member"), though not necessarily what some would consider a Huge pre-1917 seen (though there may be potentially something similar too a Model A Ford Group somewhat locally, where potentially a few of the gentlemen had and/or have some Somewhat older vehicles). Was potentially wanting to locate more enthusiasts in FL, to possibly view and/or see vehicles, talk too, materials, etc as some aren't necessarily in contact with what potentially more established groups there may be...Though of some of the gentleman in FL in the "old Car" Hobby/related/etc have possibly met, it potentially seemed as if most were supportive and/or helpful...Thanks
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6 hours ago, jdome said:
Hey ED, I've been 18 almost 4 times now, I'm overdue for a visit. Can you put me up for the winter? It got cold here in Ohio today again.
I was in the same position that SANDOW is in. I wanted some kind of an antique and settled on a 29 Model A Ford 2dr sedan when I was 16. My dad helped me choose among several 20's 30's cars that included Chevy, REO and Franklin but the A was the best buy. I learned a lot with that car. Easy to find parts and I rebuilt the engine myself from a book & manuals. I joined the local model A club but wasn't accepted well because I was young and didn't know much about restoration. My dad gave advice but wasn't very mechanical and not very involved with my hobby. Fortunately for me while still in high school, I met a hot little green eyed blond with the cutest little, personality. The real bonus though was that her dad happened to be a (CCCA) Classic car guy. I'm not sure if her dad was genuinely interested in cultivating my interest in old cars or if he just didn't want me alone with his teenage daughter, but he took me to various car shows & swap meets I didn't know existed and introduced me to several of his Classic Car friends and I was better accepted in the local CCCA under his wing. One of his friends had a barn full of V12 and 40/50's Cadillacs. Until I met my girlfriend & her father, I didn't know what a "Classic" was. By some od quirk of fate, I ended up buying a V12 Cadillac needing engine work when I was 18. How much harder than a model A can it be?
To make a long story short, SANDOW, my advice at your age, find yourself a hot babe with a father in the hobby. He was a big help and created my interest in pre-war Cadillacs. I still own the V12 but my high school sweet heart is no longer my sweet heart ... she's my wife. My father-in-law has passed as well as many of my older car friends.
LOL, Thanks for the comment...Seems like some potentially decent advice, LOL.
V12s seem potentially decent...Are they decent Vehicles? Thanks
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10 hours ago, playswithbrass said:
I will just add this. I don’t know how much research Sandow has actually done but one common complaint on this forum is that insurance companies will not cover anyone under 25. So unless the parents get involved, whatever Sandow might find won’t be going anywhere for a long while.
Some insurance companies may also raise rates if you share a residence with a newly registered driver, etc...Interesting stuff. Thanks for the comment, may have to potentially look more into that...Thanks
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On 3/23/2022 at 7:38 PM, SC38dls said:
Hell Ed, I'll swear I'm 18 and looking for an old car if I can come down and RIDE in your cars! I would even spend a few days handing you & Phil wrenches or be the garage gopher for that opportunity.
dave s
ps- Ed has invited me in the past, I just haven't figured out how to do it, he's just that nice of a guy to young and old guys & gals.
LOL...Thanks
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On 3/23/2022 at 6:20 PM, auburnseeker said:
That's an awesome invite. My first opportunity to drive or even first ride in an old car, was once I bought one myself. Never had the opportunity growing up and a bunch of my family were gear heads of sorts, just none ever had a functional old car.
"Functional," Neat Way of putting, LOL...Have heard similar of, "Money Pit and/or that whole in the driveway dump Money into," Lawn ornament," "Smiles Per Mile and/or not MPG/Cost per Mile," "Second Mortgage," "The Reason we don't live in a HOA," and/or some other interesting ones heard form Owners/Care-Takers of Older Vehicles and/or there usually "slightly more significant others" (Depending on the Car Guy, LOL), LOL...Thanks for the comment, Thanks
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On 3/23/2022 at 3:57 PM, John_S_in_Penna said:
Getting into the hobby relatively early in life
is great! A man I know--who probably has the
unacknowledged world record--still has the
1936 Oldsmobile that he acquired new in late 1935.
That's now over 86 years that he has owned it. Sandow,
if you think long-term, maybe you'll buy a car and
enjoy it well past the year 2100.
Potentially/Maybe, LOL...Thanks for the comment and/or COOL picture as well. Would possibly like to have a Vehicle for as long as that and/or build a connection, etc. Also collect Antique/Vintage/etc items and/or not necessarily into the whole Re-Sell thing, LOL (Though some people would potentially like fore more of an interest to occur, LOL). Though if such a thing and/or things was/were passed-on would potentially like for it to go to a decent "Home" and/or "Care-Taker," as some of these older items were built with quality and/or potential longevity in mind. Some may have not meant for said products to "Stick-Around" for so-long, though that may be a result of a decent quality construction (As potentially some of the Older vehicles around)...As well as decent individuals to care for them, etc. Cool Stuff...Neat Picture
Thanks
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4 minutes ago, 1912Staver said:
One suggestion in addition to your above comment, you do need to be more specific about your budget. One of the first things I learned in the old car game was to know exactly how much I had available to spend . And secondly, to avoid wasting both my time and the sellers time , only enquire about cars that were no more than 10-15 % outside of what I had to spend. In some cases a $ shortage within that sort of figure was something that could be negotiated with the seller. Or if a car was really " the one " I could sometimes borrow the difference.
Unfortunately this is a hobby where 99% of the time it is the money that talks.
It is fine to anticipate a improving financial situation, but time sometime proves otherwise.
I appreciate the advice and/or not necessarily looking to waste anyones time. As I posted a bit earlier I will be posting a bit more on budget in potentially a bit (though may have a potential figure in mind), though most who are asking for it may have no real intention of using the information for potentially beneficial purposes (Though will try once more finances are in order)...Thanks
It also may potentially be worth noting that some individuals may not necessarily be looking to pass on a vehicle "right-away" and/or another more long-term deal, etc may be worked out. Though in current "Society," it could potentially be said that "Money-Talks," as they may say...Thanks
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Do people comment somewhat negative Comments on ISO posts often to check "seriousness," etc. It seems as if most of those commenters don't necessarily know of and/or have anything they're looking to potentially pass on.
Taking the time to write what most would possibly consider ADVICE and/or SUPPORT has been a bit appreciated in some instances, etc...Thanks
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23 minutes ago, Gunsmoke said:
AACA has a chapter Currently Somewhat close!!! For pete's sake, can you not at least say which one!!! I've had it with these "potentially", arbitrary "and/or", "maybe", "etc", "somewhat" and other vague "non-answers". I am no closer to understanding what SANDOW is looking for, or if he is in any way serious, than when original post was made. Feel we're being trolled. So I'm not going to open this post again. Sorry.
Don't really necessarily like saying things the more "traditional" way as "so many" people leave in a lot of BS and/or "communication without some consideration." The reason one may use "Potentially," "Possibly," etc. Trying to be a bit polite. Have written a reply to almost every Post, so would that be considered a NON-Answer? One of the points of the post ("Looking for a 1916 Vehicle and/or Previous...Thanks") was for people to consider contacting me with any 1916 and/or previous Vehicles potentially FOR SALE and/or FOR SALE...not necessarily to do what people have been commenting. As I said AACA is not necessarily a HCCA, so not everyone may have a 1916 and/or previous car (so might not be worth going potentially for those purposes). IN terms of location, why do you want more specific than Florida in general currently? DO YOU EVEN HAVE ANY PRE-1917 VEHICLES YOUR CURRENTLY POTENTIALLY INTERESTED IN SELLING? Are you discriminating because of the way I write comments?
IF YOU HAVE A VEHICLE YOU MAY CONSIDER SELLING, SEND A MESSAGE WITH THE INFO, if you wouldn't mind...THANKS
To summarize what have somewhat commented so far,
Currently 18 (If age matters?)
In Florida currently, though willing to potentially travel distances for a vehicle
1916 and/or previous (Though may consider other years)
Not necessarily wanting to get to specific on Make, Model, Body Style, etc
Potentially like longer term owners, Originality, and/or History
Budget, Materials, etc may be subject to a bit of change, etc (So a bit open, etc)
If you actually read the comments you may have possibly gathered this...Thanks
It also may potentially be worth noting that if you spent the time questioning an individual to see if there "Serious" instead on sending them the info on what you were potentially interested in passing on, etc...it could potentially be a more affective approach. (Something to possibly consider, etc)
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1 hour ago, Brass is Best said:
At $13,530.81 USD you should buy the T in Canada and enjoy it. It is an easy to work on car. Parts are easy to find. It has Brass! It has electric lamps. Looks like a great car.
Thanks for the comment. There are a few things and/or various Vehicles/Options to possibly consider. Neat of them to offer it though (Cool Car), so will potentially consider. Thanks.
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1 hour ago, Peter Gariepy said:
AACA has 25 regions in Florida. I'd be SHOCKED if there wasn't one close to you.
https://aaca.org/list-of-regions-chapters/
Also, AACA has a discounted membership for you. https://aaca.org/about-membership/
AACA has a chapter Currently Somewhat close, though how many of those members may have materials related to 1916 and/or earlier vehicles may be something to potentially consider. Though have somewhat considered joining as there seems to maybe be decent materials, perks, etc to joining. Thanks
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1 hour ago, 1912Staver said:
Agree 100 %. My very wise father shared a gem of his powers of observation with me about a decade before his passing. About my 3 rd decade point in the hobby. " If you had of put even 50% of the effort you have put into your vintage car obsession into learning how to make and manage money, all your ambitions would have come true by now."
I did invest in a good , if costly education, and had a reasonably decent career until cost of living and family expenses started to outstrip earning increases.
But I never did learn about investments and the power of compound interest, tax advantage pro's and cons on various income streams vs direct employment and all the rest that successful people know inside and out.
Really didn't pay too much attention except in a very general until retirement was upon me , and by then it was very late in the game.
Thanks for the comment. Younger Gentleman and/or Young Lady's (Even older individuals) do potentially have a bit to consider these days, DON'T THEY, LOL...Thanks
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2 hours ago, TerryB said:
A 1916 or earlier car seems like a someday dream car for an 18 yr old. Unless you are well funded you should be looking at investing in yourself and an education to support you in your future endeavors. Having a more affordable old car now is fine if you are indeed hooked on old cars. I had the old car bug too early in life but it took until my late 30s until all the pieces fell in place to actually do it. My early life ownership of older cars as daily transportation was due to financial hardship, not desire.
Thanks for the comment. There may be a bit of consideration as well as potentially other various factors that may result in the consideration of different things, such as potential outcomes as you've stated. This may be something some may consider as a long-time consideration as since when one becomes older they may become "busy" though they may have more "Financial" and/or other situational advantages to having a Desirable Consideration and/or Evening/etc Hobby, etc (Such as an "Older" and/or Antique Vehicle, etc). Though through a bit of hard-work, etc it may work-out and/or something else. Either Way will potentially try a bit to make this Somewhat long term Consideration happen...etc, Thanks
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3 hours ago, 63RedBrier said:
SANDOW: What is your daily driver? Do you have a garage to store/maintain/repair your potential early vehicle? Answers to these may help us guide you to a good decision. All the best! Greg
Thank you for the advice...Looking to potentially make this vehicle my "First Car," so to speak. Though whether and/or not it (once in possession, etc) would be considered by some a Daily-driver at a time may depend of several factors. Though also potentially interested in having/Considering a "Daily-Driver," etc as well as another Vehicle (Such as an Antique Vehicle, etc). Thanks
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3 hours ago, John_S_in_Penna said:
Once the original poster defines his budget,
we can share finds that we are not interested in.
That way, we won't be scattering our fire, and
we'll come closer to being on target for what he wants.
AACA members often go out of their way to help newcomers.
Thanks for the comment...Thanks
Will potentially try to outline and/or post more figures and/or etc in a bit...
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3 hours ago, Mark Wetherbee said:
But here’s the rub, why should I give you the information of cars I’ve known about for 20-30 years and spent the last 5 trying to buy??? The point is that you need to be doing something other than asking us to share our finds and then BS’ing us - it gets old after the first time.Go get something, or at least join a few clubs and get acquainted with other people who are offering advice and we MIGHT take you seriously…
Honestly, Ed even offered to let you drive a few different cars to get an idea of what you might want to focus on, something I wouldn’t even let my own brother do. I don’t think you have any idea how rare an offer like that is…
Why would you mention something just to withhold information about it. Consider maybe not sharing it as if you considered sharing information and/or ad on that you yourself are trying to buy them as to potentially not have any confusion. In terms of "going and getting something," that would kind-of be the point of this post. In terms of offers of somewhat near-by individuals to see vehicles are a bit appreciated and/or hopefully something is worked out (Though would they have the info to potentially offer if a "BS'ing" post like this, as you put it, was ever posted?).
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5 minutes ago, Ronnie said:
I think you might need to get a new keyboard. It appears the "potentially" key is stuck on your current one.
Potentially, LOL...
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2 hours ago, Terry Bond said:
Pleased to see you are focusing. If you are now seriously in the market and on the hunt that's great. Your choice of a 15/16 brassy T is fine. Easy to work with, not expensive and a good support group exists. Personally I think a Model A is more usable, but the T will easily get you into brass era motoring. You'll have a blast. But, to tour you'll probably need to haul it from one place to another via truck and trailer. Best place to find a good T is to join some clubs and start getting to know people in person. You can go on many tours and ride in back seats or help navigate. It's fun and a great way to meet people. Get on the Model T and other forums and watch the far sale ads, but understand many great cars change hands among club members and friends before ever being advertised. Good luck in your search and let us know how you're doing.
Terry
Thanks, etc
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3 hours ago, gossp said:
@SANDOW 3Makes speaks the truth here. There are ver helpful guys here that can give you real help if they happen to be local. I am a young guy in this hobby and I let the really young guys in this hobby play with my cars any time.
I just picked up a vehicle of the vintage you are after that an 18 year old that wanted to join the best hobby on earth could become the owner of on sweat equity and zero dollars. Work on mine while you work on yours, I will provide guidance, buy materials and parts for both… on the back side: I got cheap labor, you got a restoration education and a car. I don’t know any 18 year olds near me that would do the work.
Something like that would potentially be a decent deal...Thanks
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3 hours ago, wayne sheldon said:
I have always preferred horseless carriage era cars (pre 1916) myself. But my first antique automobile was the 1929 Reo coupe I bought when I was 17, still in high school. I even drove that car to school a number of times during my senior year! I drove it on numerous club tours, including a couple I belonged to, and a couple I didn't. I accepted the model A Ford club joking about "the only thing holding that car together is the termites, holding hands!" I never actually joined that club, but did go on a number of their tours as a guest because several of my good friends did have model A Fords. That club had an annual swap meet as a fund raiser for the club. For several years, I volunteered for set up and clean up of the grounds, even though I was not a member of the club. Those are still fond memories, more than fifty years later.
Good advice from several people above! That was how I got going in the hobby over fifty years ago.
Hey, Mark W! I like that Franklin!
And I hope you noticed the 1916 (?) model T currently shown in our "Not Mine!) for sale?
I love all the other cars! But if one could only have ONE antique automobile in the 1910s or 1920s era? For the price, you cannot beat a model T or model A Ford! Clubs and information, parts, help, tours, you name it. Nothing gives more smiles per mile than a model T!
I don't know if that "1916" is a real 1916 or not, could be a 1915, or could be a later car made up to look like a brass era car? That has been done a lot! And you need to know some of what to look for on any antique automobile, but especially on brass era model Ts! A lot of fake ones out there.
Joe (in Canada) posted just ahead of me! His car looks a lot better, and looks to be the better buy. (I wish I could afford it!) But both of these two brass model T touring cars look like they are reasonable cars (for their price).
Thanks for the advice and/or the comments. Will maybe try to potentially check out that posting, Thanks....Thanks
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Neat Vehicle...Thanks