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Not a buyer - Not a seller - Just a fan - Recently I stumbled across this interesting Dietrich story on the net that was posted by John Harley (who I would thank if I could find him). Great story - peaked my interest and thought to myself there has to be all kinds more from days gone by. Story attached below
A lot of the gentlemen that restored or collected these cars back in the day are no longer with us. As time goes by interesting tales like this get lost. I have always been fascinated by the trip through time and the stories along the way.
Wonder if there are any old timers out there like myself that would have tales and photos going back to the 50's, 60's and 70's when these gems where being shown at various shows. ie Grand Classics, Caravans and AACA events - or restoration photos. It's great to follow the history of these cars - Where it sold new, who owned it along the way, who restored it? Thought I would include some names from the past that either owned or restored multiple Dietrich's. John Wheatley, Don DiMichele, Ken Wessel, Jack Passey, Harold Crosby, Richard Paine, Steve Gunder and Marvin Colver (customs by Beaver) to name a few. The only time you see photos of these cars today is when one it being sold by one of the large auction houses.
Wouldn't it be fun to learn how they when from here to here to here
Hope this post inspires a few to dig out an old story or photo from the past.
I go on the Forum every day and find it very informative and entertaining. Have been a member of the CCCA for over 40 years and this morning I took Walt's advise and got off my fanny and joined the AACA.
Brian
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Not a buyer - Not a seller - Just a fan - Recently I stumbled across this interesting Dietrich story on the net that was posted by John Harley (who I would thank if I could find him). Great story - peaked my interest and thought to myself there has to be all kinds more from days gone by. Story attached below
A lot of the gentlemen that restored or collected these cars back in the day are no longer with us. As time goes by interesting tales like this get lost. I have always been fascinated by the trip through time and the stories along the way.
Wonder if there are any old timers out there like myself that would have tales and photos going back to the 50's, 60's and 70's when these gems where being shown at various shows. ie Grand Classics, Caravans and AACA events - or restoration photos. It's great to follow the history of these cars - Where it sold new, who owned it along the way, who restored it? Thought I would include some names from the past that either owned or restored multiple Dietrich's. John Wheatley, Don DiMichele, Ken Wessel, Jack Passey, Harold Crosby, Richard Paine, Steve Gunder and Marvin Colver (customs by Beaver) to name a few. The only time you see photos of these cars today is when one it being sold by one of the large auction houses.
Wouldn't it be fun to learn how they when from here to here to here
Hope this post inspires a few to dig out an old story or photo from the past.
I go on the Forum every day and find it very informative and entertaining. Have been a member of the CCCA for over 40 years and this morning I took Walt's advise and got off my fanny and joined the AACA.
Brian
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Trees are getting a little thin in Southern Ontario although you can't squawk about 70 degrees in late October. Tucked away for the winter soon. One more Photo to follow
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Thanks fellows for the help. Apparently my computer skills are not much better than my mechanical skills!!
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Changing plugs on my 39 Packard 12 and like a dummy I broke one. It is a Champion Plug J11C. In searching various spark plug cross reference sites, I'm getting nowhere. My original service manual calls for a AC 103S or Champion Y4. Anybody know what the modern replacement is for a 39 Packard 12 and if they would be readily available?
Thanks in advance
Brian
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Congratulations Matt on a great book. Received my copy last week. Excellent research and insight into some of the personalities of the classic car era. A wealth of information on Murray/Dietrich and LeBaron/Briggs. Highly recommended.
Brian
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The green speedster, being in the Lee collection, who are famous for researching and putting their cars back to their original configuration ie. the two Hispano's shown at Pebble a few years back that were owned new by the Rothchild's were both restored back to their original colours. I'd bet a dime to a donut that the speedster was probably delivered new in its green livery. Anyone of the four would be worth a kings ransom. In my opinion, they would have looked a lot better mounted on the 142 inch wheel base chassis.
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Al, I have attached a factory photo courtesy of the Detroit Public Library. Not proof positive, but it looks to me like this car has the painted shell, rad louvers and painted headlight buckets. Too bad it is not a coloured photo.
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In regards to the LeBaron speedster with the painted shell headlight buckets, rad louvers and tail light stanchions, it is not a fake. The car resides in the Lee collection in Nevada. At one time Mr Lee had two of the originals. I must confess that even conservative Packard executives got it wrong when it came to colour! The grey LeBaron sport Phaeton in the photo beside also resides in the Lee collection. The four originals were on display at Pebble many years ago. The darker green speedster with the wheel discs is a Fran Roxas rebody.
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Was messing around in u-tube one day looking at a video totally unrelated to classic cars when I stumbled upon the Holy Grail!
Fast forward on the link below (if the link doesn't work, copy and paste it into your browser) to the 30 minute 20 second mark. If that doesn't work, go into u-tube and search for a video called "Secrets of Llewellyn Park"
My religion says "Thou shalt not lust" but I can't help it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQPW_VyL9ZE
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Found a new video posted of a 1934 Packard Dietrich. Enjoyable to see this era of car in motion vs a stand still photo at a car show. Would be awesome to see more videos of cars from the classic era during Covid 19 to fill the gap due to the lack of car shows. How about a virtual Pebble Beach Tour d'elegance!
Brian
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Found a new video posted of a 1934 Packard Dietrich. Enjoyable to see this era of car in motion vs a stand still photo at a car show. Would be awesome to see more videos of cars from the classic era during Covid 19 to fill the gap due to the lack of car shows. How about a virtual Pebble Beach Tour d'elegance!
Brian
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John, I stumbled across another photo of what has to be the Maybelline car. Because this photo was taken in Chicago it makes you believe it is the Dome Car but obviously it is not. Comparing it to your photos the trunk must have been added on after the car was delivered new to Mr Williams. The two cars must have been virtually identical when new other than the Maybelline car having all the chrome embellishments. ie. Rad Shell, Belt Moulding and Hood Vent Doors. Rumour has it the car was in a scrap yard in Chicago back in the early 50's.
Thanks everyone for all your wonderful contributions to this thread - keep them coming. Totally enjoyable
Brian
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On 5/20/2020 at 12:59 PM, John_Mereness said:
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A few grainy photos of a 34 custom Dietrich in rural Poland that I found on the net. The car survived this miss treatment and it still with us today.
Throughly enjoying the topic - let's keep it up. Everybody stay well
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I don't even care if it runs - just put it in my garage so I can stare at it.
'34 Packard Dietrich - 1 off
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Just a follow up to Ed's posting on the "'34 Field Find". Been a fan of v windshield dietrichs for many years. A short story about one of my luckiest days in the hobby. I attended a show 10 or so years ago at Gilmore Museum - this car was not entered in the show but the owner had taken it out of the museum to give it some exercise. The car was parked off on its own in a great spot to get photos. I grabbed my lawn chair and camera and off I went to admire the car! An hour or so later the owner came by and we had a brief chat. I guess he could see the passion in my eyes and before I knew it he threw me the keys and said "Why don't you take it for a drive" Not very often a commoner gets to drive around in a 7 figure car! Needless to say - this was a thrill of a lifetime!!!! I realized on my way back that I had to find a passerby in order to take a couple of photos of me in the car. I figured my wife and fellow car buffs would not believe me! Must of been the luck of the Irish that day! One of 4 originally built.
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West, great news - wonderful to see a car like this come out from hiding! Certainly on my bucket list to see down the road. What we really need is Paul Harvey to tell us the rest of the story! Conjecture says this is a one of one - Here are a couple of factory photos when it was new;
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A couple more custom Dietrich's - The usual questions - Who, What, Where, When and Why.
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19 hours ago, V16 said:
Can you imagine the excitement of finding this car back in 1987. In my opinion, one of the most beautiful cars ever built!
Thanks for posting the custom Dietrich. Gets my heart racing just looking at the photo's. Anyone with any additional info on this car would be awesome.
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Ed, attaching photo taken at Pebble Beach circa 1962. I assume there is about a one in three chance that you are very familiar with this car!
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On 12/11/2018 at 8:55 PM, K8096 said:
And here's one of the three 1934 Packard Twelve Dietrich convertible coupes at Dennison University, Ohio, 1957. This one was battleship grey at the time.
To K8096,
To you and all the bloggers, this thread is more fun then a treasure hunt for kids! Throughly enjoying the photos and the history lessons.
In regards to the photo that you posted of the 34 Dietrich conv coupe, would you happen to know who was the owner of the car back then and do you have any idea which one of the three that I am admiring? Any chance you have more photos of this beauty?
Brian
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Photo apparently taken in June of 1957. Must be still out there somewhere!
Dietrich Individual Customs - 32/33/34
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I will bring this to my secretary (wifes) attention. I guess a reduction in her wage may be necessary.