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Have added picture and set price. See original thread on top-Thanks-Larry
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Thought I would move this up the line. Have gotten some interesting bids so far. Have added the "Build Sheet".
Thanks--Larry
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Thanks for the response. AFA price I have no idea what it is worth since it is so rare and so low mileage. Can not find anything else to compare with. Larry--P.S. I am open for opinions.
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CAMARO: 1994 Z28 1LE, very rare 1 of 135, Black with Gray/Red Interior; B-W(T-56)6 Speed-192 total miles. Have all conceivable paperwork on the car, bought new and still has the Chevrolet inspection stickers on the windows. Car should be treated as an investment. Legal to run on the street. Primary customers were sold to the SCCA members. This is a “No Frills” Pony Car. ”This car could be the lowest mileage Gen4 1LE in the country” ASKING 20K. Call Larry@8156638304
ASKING 20K
Reason For Selling>NEED ROOM-Have an eye on
another car.
I am not in the market to make a big profit on this car. All I want is a "Fair Price". On the other hand I do not want to give it away either. This car is intended to be sold to a "Low mileage Camaro Collector" not a dealer that wants a quick turnover.
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One must also remember the cost of "Real Estate Tax" when one has a storage facility. In Illinois this tax is going up drastically. Also when your storage facility has no one living there the rate is higher then if it is attached to your house. (At least in Illinois) It is starting to become a very expensive hobby! Larry
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MC>Thanks for the input. Instead of saying "improperly restored perfect car" ; I should have said "Improperly restored to the original condition of the car". As we know when you get into the AACAGN all cars look perfect but they all are not restored to the original condition of the car. IMHO
P.S. I am a judge in other org. but sorry to say none of what I learned in those org. applies to the judging in AACA.
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On 1/5/2017 at 1:08 PM, MCHinson said:
You meet the requirements to judge at the AGNM. Judging is exactly the same as any other meet. There is no reason you should not judge. The quality of cars may be a bit higher than an "average" meet but that just means there are fewer deductions to take, which actually could be argued makes the judging easier than a regular meet.
I humbly disagree. Judging a AGNM is harder because a judge has to know the cars better and separate the "bling"(improperly restored perfect cars) from the original cars. As good as best intentions are; it is very easy to get "overwhelmed" by the bling.-Larry
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3 hours ago, Frantz said:
When 5 judges approach a car we each have a job. Prior to taking off points for anything we don't know to be wrong we check with the owner. We give the owner a chance to defend his car with documents. A good explanation can be accepted as well at the judges discernment. The challenge is in time, resources, and a reasonable amount of trust placed in the owners hands. If every point on the vehicle were questioned, it would take a day per car, at the very least.Frantz: I concur what you said above but differ when you indicate "If every point on the vehicle". When you have to be within 5 points of the Top Car (Grand National)>EVERY SINGLE POINT IS CRITICAL!!! Something has got to give and it comes down to this:
1)Change the requirement of being within 5 Points to a more realistic number. Or
2)Take more time in Judging and get input from the car owners to a more degree.
Yes you give the owner the right to defend his car but no one is giving you the input of taking points off the improper over restored cars that are explained above. (eg:Gloss Point vs. Semi Gloss)
Every-time you let this slide the original car has a more difficult time of getting within the 5 point threshold.
Of course this is JMHO--Larry
It comes down to this: It not the points taken off of your car but the points that are not taken off the Top Car.
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11 hours ago, Curti said:
Is over restoration still alive and well at judged events like AACA, CCCA ,Amelia,PB etc. ? IE. gloss polished frames, polished copper tubing , chrome where it doesn't belong , detail where it never existed.
I know the Corvette guys cracked down on the extraneous Bling. The ACD club is making a serous run at it.
Curti: Take it from me that the "bling" still exist especially when you get to the Grand National Level. It appears to me as good as the judges are they are still "overwhelmed" with the "bling" and make it hard for an all original car to get within 5 Pt. of the Top Car.
JMHO P.S. Try to explain this to the judges before the judging started to point out some of the differences but to no avail. BTW-NCRS will take points off for this-the way it should be. The judges are only human and "THIS WILL INFLUENCE WHAT THEY SEE WHEN THEY COMPARE CARS"
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Plan on going to the meet@Bettendorf IA in Aug.. I have an original type battery(Restoration Battery) that is a perfect
looking type for the car. Problem is that it is old and can barely start the car now. Question: can I drive
the car onto the show field with a new none original battery type then "change-out" the battery for judging
purposes on the judging field?? If not can I put a "battery box" on the original one to drive onto the field; then take it off before judging?? Thanks in Advance--Larry
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3 hours ago, Marty Roth said:
The Grand National in 2017 is in Independence, MO (Kansas City area).
Extend yourself a bit, and you might just get BOTH the Grand national First, as well as a 1st Preservation ;-)
Marty>Thanks for the response. But extending it another 200 Miles is way to far for one way for me. That would mean a layover somewhere in between which is what I don't want to do for security reasons and time involved. Larry
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4 hours ago, Restorer32 said:
Then you will be going for a Preservation Award.
Couple of questions. Will the car get judged identical as cars get judged for "Senior"?
P.S. Not talking about the % from top car is class but the things they look for on the scoring sheet. Is there a limit on times to go for in Preservation Award?? Thanks
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Restorer32>Car has been awarded "Senior" several years ago. Thanks
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Plan on going to the "Central Fall Meet"@Bettendorf IA in Aug. with one of my "Senior" awarded cars to get judged. What is the award given in this case?? I plan on buying the 2017 Judging Guide when they become available. Thanks in Advance. Larry
P.S. Plan on going to a Grand National IF we ever have one closer to Illinois. My towing range is 200 miles one way.
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FWIW: Of course there are always two side to a coin. It's been my experience that the
recap you get from VP of Judging is very very vague. It is very difficult to find out what exactly the deductions where for. Unlike NCRS/Bloomington Gold and other top flight judging events which "pinpoint" the deductions>AACA does not. JMHO>Larry
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I started to convert my United Trailer (Bought New) from regular tail light bulbs to LED's. Upon doing this I discovered that the Red Lenses are reversed (Top to Bottom) on the passenger side of the trailer. The bulbs are also placed opposite from the Left side compared to the Right side. (The bulbs are placed upright on the DS and placed down from the sockets on the PS) This is the way it came from the factory. Lenses have never been taken off. Has anybody ever come across this?? When I put the new LED's in it appeared to have different brightness (Not much) from Right to Left.(Lenses placed the same) Question:Did the factory install the lenses this way on purpose which would mean the lenses bend light different from its placement? Thanks in advance-Larry
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Thanks for the Make/Model
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Good luck with your meet in Mankato Mn. but that is way out of my traveling/towing range.
I know some members don't consider this that far(over 400 miles) but it's all relative. Larry
P.S. Like to limit my trips to about 200 miles or less that's why I belong to many more org. then AACA.
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I see in 2017 we will have a meet in Bettendorf IA(Part of the Quad Cities). It is sponsored by
the Mississippi Region. Meets in this part of the country are few and far between. Larry
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Don't know when it got started but I wish AACA would give a more a definitive type
of car for the winners. Listing the winners under "Chevrolet" tells me nothing. eg.: Would
like to know how many Camaro's where in 36B. But it is what it is I guess. Larry
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21 hours ago, helfen said:
Is tribute a new or friendly word for clone? I have a friend who has a REAL one ( 63 SD), are we to assume letting this go that this kind of thing helps all his effort restoring this car.
Accept a car for what it is, not what you want it to be.
AACA should wake up, the vin #'s for these SD cars are available.
A SD car is a factory race car and race cars have their own category 24 something I think.
helfen: You are correct; it is unfortunate AACA has taken a path down this lane. I guess they will accept any clone now. By doing so their awards have way less value then they use to. So Sad. Larry
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A more interesting question would be: Did Chevrolet offer a Impala SS Convertible in 1961?? I guess they did; picture of one below: -
Here is a picture from my files showing Yenko Chevrolet's "COPO Holding Lot". Circa 1969
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FWIW: One of the most things that is overlooked is the 32-Bit vs. 64-Bit operating system in your computer. All of my programs>eg:
Calendar/Name&Address & etc. are with the 32-Bit system. It is hard to find a new computer that has the 32-Bit system; they have all
gone to 64-Bits. Bottom line> ALL YOUR 32 BIT SYSTEM PROGRAMS WILL NOT WORK WITH THE 64-BIT NEW COMPUTERS!!
So Beware. Larry
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