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Still looking for a matching rear axle that fits my 1920 Stephens Salient Six. The original StanPar axle is a worn out . Cracked pinion , broken differential spider and so on. The left rear hub and axle shaft are damaged as a result of careless driving car with a loose rear hub. The springs are a mix from different cars and must be renewed.
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On 2016-12-07 at 9:02 PM, john ullrich said:
Looking at your patent date May of 14 on the Timken axle, do you believe that the Timken rear axles from that age forward may suit your needs, if so Cadillac used them and may be able to help as they are available.
There were a lot of different Timken rear axles. Did Cadillac use full floating axles? Have seen a 1913 rear axle but it did not fit. The StanPar and Timken axles were of the semi floating type. I think the StanPar and the 1921 rear axles were identical att the inside. May be up to 1924 when the production of the Stephens was interupted. The pictured axles is Cadillac.
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5 hours ago, edinmass said:
Neat car, difficult problem. Hollander interchang if available that early may help.
What is Hollander interchang? Please enlighten me.
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3 hours ago, just me said:
Have this Timken rear end. Would guess it's 1915 or later. Located in Ohio. Charley
There were several different types of Timken rear axles at the market and I am not sure that your rear axle will fit my Stephens. Is your rear axle of the full floating type?
I think the Timken axles were used on about 9000 cars during the period 1921 to 1924. The ratio was 4,75.
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Restoring a 1920 Stephens Salient Six. The rear axle from Stan Par is worn out.
These rear axles were used during 1920 only and I think it’s no idea looking for a Stan Par axle.
However, in 1921 the Stan Par rear axles were replaced with identical axles from Timken. The differential seems to be the same. See the pictures from the Stephens Sales brochure. Remember that other brands may have used this Timken rear axle!
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Yes, the internal gears were made by Brown-Lipe- Chapin that was a well known manufacturer of transmissions. The Stephens Motor Works used front and rear axles from Stan Par in 1920 only. The following year, 1921, the Stephens cars were equipped with axles from Timken. Have done som research and I found just a few car manufacturers that used the Stan Par axles: Sayers Six, Bidddle and Stephens. There were so many brands on the market so I guess there must have been more than these car manufacturers that used the Stan Par axles, but these axles were not very common. If my search for the missing parts fails I must find a similar rear axle.
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I am restoring a 1920 Stephens. I am in need of a better differential with pinion and ring gear. The rear axle is a Stan Par.
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I am looking for a working generator or just a good armature that fits my Overland 4. The engine is supported with a chain driven Magneto from American Bosch. This armature has a chain ring at the front and as a result the axle of the armature is longer compared with a generator for battery ignition.
The generator has the identification number nr GP 4002 and the dimensions of the armature are as follows: Total length 270 mm. Diameter 71,5 mm.The armature has a GP 2117 stamped in.
Claes in Sweden
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The Brown- Lipe stamp on the ring gear is interesting. As far as I know they were a rival of Timken. Possibly a replacement gear set from long ago, or possibly they were the builders not Timken.
Greg in Canada
Yes, the ring gear seems to be renewed. Good condition but loose rivets indicates that a non professional person has done the job. The pinion is worn.There are identification numbers at the ring gear and the pinion. I am not sure what these numbers stand for. The pinion has 8-37 and the ring gear 38-8. Both are marked 20¤.
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was the rear axle perhaps supplied by a component manufacturer? This might broaden the search to other cars
According the manufacturer the rear axle is a Timken, but the rear axle seems to be built by the subcontractor Standard Parts Company. As far as I know they also produced springs, rims and so on. It seems that they also built the steering gears for the Stephens cars. Yes, other brands like Biddle, Premier and Roamer used this rear axle, but they are rather unknown today.
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I now see the pics of the diff in your first posting on this topic.
Pete
That´s good. Have had some difficulties loading up my pictures
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A late friend of mine, Len LeCrone had a lot of Stephens parts and a couple of cars. He sold most of the parts to a fellow named Lowell Stephens in Nebraska I think. He may be listed in the AACA.
Chuck
Couldn´t find Lowell Stephens in the AACA or at the internet.
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The rear axle is a Timken but the rear axle cover has the logotype Stan Par. Have checked in an old Dykes Encyclopedia and actually found some cars that used Stan Par rear axles. Biddle, Paterson, Premier, Roamer and Sayers Six are completely unknown to me. But there must have been other brands on the market which used a Stan Par rear axle.
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The rear axle is completely worn out and I am looking for the parts mentioned above. There are not many left of these Stephens cars today and this restoration is a challenge.
Greetings from Claes in Sweden
claesrocklin@gmail.com
About the hub
Total length 115 mm, diameter of the plate 192 mm, The diameter of the hub pressed into the centre of the wheel is 58,5 mm. The length is 61 mm.
The diameter of the thread for the hubcap is around 73 mm. Maybe it is 2 7/8"-16
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I am in need of following parts for a 1920 Timken rear axle:
Pinion, differential spider with its 4 gears, the 2 gears for the axle shafts and the ring gear. If someone has a complete rear axle, the transmission cover has the logo Stan Par stamped in. I guess it stands for The Standard Parts Company.
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I have picked the rear axle apart and noticed that the differential is worn out. The pinion is badly hurt. The differential spider is broken. The four differential gears are worn out and so on.The rear axle is a Timken, but the hatch at the differential has the logo "Stan Par." The ring gear and the pinion are made by Brown-Lipe-Chapin. Please contact me if you got something.
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Looking for some good hubcaps for my 1920 Stephens Salient Six. The Stephens cars were produced 1917-1924 by the Stephens Motorworks in Freeport, Illinois.There are at least three different caps that fit my car. The caps are made in aluminum and have an inner diameter of around 73 mm from thread to thread.
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Looking for some good hubcaps for my 1920 Stephens Salient Six. The Stephens cars were produced 1917-1924 by the Stephens Motorworks in Freeport, Illinois . There are at least three different caps that fit my car. The caps are made in aluminum and have an inner diameter of around 73 mm from thread to thread.
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I am looking for good hubs for a 1920 Timken rear axle: The hub has a total length of 115 mm. The hub flange has a diameter of 192 mm. The part of the hub that is pressed into the center of the wooden wheel has a diameter of 58,5 mm. The threads for the hubcap are around 73 mm in diameter (Maybe it is a 27/8- 16 TPI). The hole for the axle shaft at the outside of the hub has a diameter of 25 mm. The hole at the opposite side has a diameter of 39 mm.
The Timken axles were rather common so I hope you can help!
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Thanks for your reply. I appreciate that but I prefer the original aluminium caps. As a Swede I am no expert on these Stephens cars but my guess is that your mushroom shaped cap was introduced in 1922 when the car was slightly modified. I think the inner diameter is less than 73 mm. The Stephens cars were produced 1917-1924 by the Stephens Motor Works in Freeport, Illinois . The company was funded by the Moline Plow that until now had produced agricultural equipment. No assembly line and the cars were built by hand. As a result they became rather expensive but despite the fact around 25000 cars were sold and about 100 cars reached Sweden. My Stephens is the only survivor. But you can take your caliper and check the inner diameter of your cap. Let me know the result!
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Looking for hubcaps for my Stephens Salient Six.
The hubcaps are made of aluminium. There are at least three different types that will fit: Pressed aluminium, casted aluminium and a third version with a riveted faceplate.
The inner diameter is around 73 millimetres from thread to thread
Greetings from Claes in Sweden E mail: claes.rocklin@spray.se
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Noticed that the rear hubs at my Timken rear axle were cracked at the key.
The hub looks odd and it seems like that the triangular inner part with the key is pressed into the outer part with the thrust plate.
What car it is? Well it is a Stephens and there are just a few left. However Timken is a common rear axle and I hope that some of you guys out there can help.
I think the threads for the hubcap are 2 7/8"-16 TPI.
Greetings from Claes in Sweden. E mail: claes.rocklin@spray.se
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I am looking for Hubcaps that fit my 1920 Stephens Salient Six. The hubcaps are made of aluminum and the inner diameter is around 71 millimetres from thread to thread. There are at least three types of hub caps that fit my car: The unpainted heavier cap in casted aluminum, the black painted cap in pressed aluminum. Maybe the one with the riveted faceplate is an after market hub. It will also fit but I think it is made of nickel plated brass.
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I am looking for a good ammeter that fits a car from the early twenties. The "body" must have a diameter of 2" to fit into the instrument panel. The bezel must be nickel plated to match the rest of the gauges. This ammeter is inserted from the outside and hold on place by a metal strap at the backside.
Auto Lite or National with the stylized indian head will do.
I finally found what I was looking for. A great thank to the seller and to all of you who tried to help. Sorry for the email trouble!
Stephens Salient Six. A Swedish survivor
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Sorry Lowell . I missed your message of nov 18 2020. Here comes som information. The restoration proceeds. The entire body is rewooded and ready for paint. The engine is restored and ready to install. Had to order new springs . The old ones were in bad condition. The front axla is on place. Needa better piion.
Claes