[Period images to relieve some of the stress]

Back to the future, with a lesser known electric car, the Hupp-Yeats.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Yes, it had a 20 hp Stanley engine, good memory.  Maybe the car will surface someday!

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Where is this car today?  A steamer made up by a Mr. Benoit, with a Stanley engine mounted forward of the firewall.  He called it a Stan-Ben.  Does the car survive, or was it dismantled and used as a donor for other projects?

[Pierce limousine and Packard LeBaron prewar cars in postwar era]

On 11/23/2019 at 9:48 AM, JV Puleo said:

1910 Pope Hartford - picture taken in 1910. Although its a black & white photo, the car is a deep maroon color and was completely unrestored. I only know this because I've seen it - it belonged to a gentleman in RI back in the 70s and it was at the first antique car show I attended (with Arthur Mellor in the Packard Waterhouse shown earlier).

 

 

This is Clarence Huggins' Pope, photo dates to 1949 (Clarence with duster and goggles).  Same car with NH plate "11 H" appears in the background of the photo of the L Head Mercer that was posted.  Bill Johnson of Rhode Island had a similar car, easily distinguished by the piano hinge on the windshield.  I only learned this while working on a Pope Hartford roster the past few weeks.

[A little AACA History for you]

Interesting background on the Folwells and period photo of their 1906 Packard here.

[Walt Meyer Auto Museum?]

I don't know if this is the one Bob recalls in or near Ridgefield, CT years ago, but this is what Miller's Henderson looked like the year after the auction, on display at Bennington, VT.  I believe it was the first of all the cars auctioned off, to be up and running and back on the road.

[Walt Meyer Auto Museum?]

On 6/11/2019 at 3:31 PM, md murray said:

I believe the "mint condition 1916 Packard" they may be referring to was Ronnie Hall's Blue twin six.

This makes good sense.  That was a west coast car, and Ron did bring it up to a very nice condition.  It was probably on loan to the museum, just as the car was on loan to Staley for many years.  Thanks for making this connection. There was another car very similar to Ron's that was in the greater Syracuse area for many years, and I've been working for years to find where that one went.  I'm sure it survives and is on the roster, but can't make the connection (yet).

[Walt Meyer Auto Museum?]

This 1984 Syracuse newspaper clipping mentions a 1913 Stanley and a mint 1916 Packard in the museum.  Two complete mysteries for the roster keepers.  Does anyone know what happened to either?

[Selden Patent plate]

Tom Reese is still the expert.  I visited him at his home in MN maybe 8 years ago and saw the compilation.  You might try reaching out to him directly.

[1913 Automatic Tire Pump Hose needed]

A similar fabric wrapped hose is used in the world of airbrushes, but might be too small a diameter.  Worth looking on eBay to see what's out there even if undersized.  Maybe the same sources can provide larger hose.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Vampira in a Packard 840 touring car, 1954.  Where did this one go?

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Fred Ross owned the FDR car, and you remember correctly, it was destroyed by fire.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Packard 840 touring, probably in the 1950's judging from attire.  There aren't many of these around, so maybe someone will know where this one ended up.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

On 3/24/2019 at 1:23 PM, StanleyRegister said:

Freshly-discovered photo of a Duesenberg supercharged convertible sedan.  The back says "1934 Duseenberg 1934 supercharged, John Seelinger, owner, sold at time of photo for $1500."

 

Skirted front fenders that come low over the tires, sidemounts, flat windshield, no vent windows, center door handles, unskirted rear fenders, integrated trunk - I can't find one like it in a quick internet search.

 

You will have to keep looking, with a twist.  I understand the body is now on a different chassis, and the chassis now sports a different body. 

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

A car I never saw, but have been asked about many times: this 1924 Mercedes was owned by Charlie Arnholm, who ran a motel in Barre, VT. He ran the car in the 50's and 60's, and probably parted with it by the early 1970's.  Does anyone know where it is today, and maybe have a recent photo to share?

[Men out on Outing. What is this car?]

On 3/3/2019 at 11:41 PM, A. Ballard 35R said:

Yes, Model 30 Packard but not sure whether 1911 or 1912. Will see what Packard roster keeper twin-6 has to say.

1911, with 4 bow top. License plate looks to be Illinois, and there's a monogram on the tonneau panel but both are illegible so I'm no help on identifying this car as to owner or engine number.  Nice photos, thank you for sharing.  TreeClimber, do you have any more information on the car's owner?

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

A couple old gems being rescued from barns.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

That's why I posted it, hoping someone following the thread would recall the owner, or a car fitting that description in that location so we could add that name to the online roster page for a surviving car.  Odds are the car is on the roster, but we've never known which car it is.  The Stanley roster keeper and I have dozens of photos like these, of cars we know exist but for which we cannot make the connection without the help of others so another name can be added to the car's provenance.  Clubs like A-C-D and RROC have had great records on ownership for a very long time, setting a kind of gold standard.  For those of us working on other marques that got by comparison a late start, there is a lot of work to do and we need help.  Hopefully others who have photos from decades ago will feel welcome and be motivated to post them here and reap the benefit of the collective knowledge of the followers, regardless of marque.  I didn't set out to make this a thread limited to specific marques, but admit its focus has only been as broad as the photos posted and we just happen to have a lot of Packard and Stanley photos from 50+ years ago!  We need others to share old photos and knowledge of specific vehicles to help make this work.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Here are Park C. Skipper (L) and Jack Skelding (R) with Skipper's 1918 Packard and a 1931 (?) Lincoln, in Clearwater, FL in 1954.  I'd love to know where the Packard went.

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

The sidemount and bolt patterns on the wheels don't bode well for this to be a match, plus the cowl lights and band that were present in the 1950's and today on the Rhinehart car are absent in the 1960's era photo.  I think we're looking at two different cars. Thanks for the old pix from the 50's!

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

A 3rd series Eight Packard touring at the Old Car Festival in the 1960's.  There are fewer than 10 known to exist, none with this paint scheme.  Any ideas on whose this was back then, or now?

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

On 2/8/2019 at 4:55 PM, Erska said:

Here is another classic Packard from mid-1950s Los Angeles.  The story I was told is that my father owned this dual-cowl phaeton in original condition, then sold it to someone who restored it.  The photos are after the restoration.  Is it a 1932 model?  An eight?  Still around? 

 

Yes, a 1932 model 903 DeLuxe Eight sport phaeton.  I'm sure it's still around, but do not know where it is today.  Thanks for sharing some great photos!

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Some photos I believe were taken in the 1950's, for the Buick enthusiasts.  Does anyone know who owned these?

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

On 2/5/2019 at 10:58 PM, StanleyRegister said:

 

Couldn't resist adding this.  A few years later, a bunch of guys thought it would be fun to recreate this Peter Helck painting in real life.

 

Clarence Huggins, with his back to the camera, was a larger than life character who had a Pope Hartford for at least 20 years, that he toured in frequently.  Not sure where exactly this ended up, but I believe it's on the west coast somewhere.  Clarence was a very dedicated member of the Profile Automobile League in NH (the PAL's),  never camera shy, and always up for a gag.  Here's an example from the club's magazine "Splash Pan."

[Then and now: where did these prewar cars go?]

Erska, I think this car from the group of photos you posted a few days ago, was Art Austria's 1913 Simplex, a car that has a slightly different look now and has been shown at Pebble Beach in the not too distant past. I'm not doing well identifying any other from the group, but maybe someone will chime in.