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THE FOLKS THAT YOU WANT TO TALK TO ABOUT REBUILDING/RESTORING MARVEL CARBURETORS ARE: CLASSIC CARBURETORS IN PHOENIX, ARIZONA. THEIR PHONE NUMBER IS (602) 971-3300. MARK BUBER IS THE MAN TO ASK FOR. THEY DO NOT WORK ON ANYTHING NEWER THAN LATE 50'S. THEY DID THE BRASS-BODIED MARVELS ON MY 1916, 1920, AND 1922 BUICKS. THEIR WORK IS ABSOLUTELY EXCELLENT. THE CARBURETORS WERE RETURNED TO ME READY TO BOLT ON TO THE MANIFOLDS, HOOK UP THE LINKAGES, ATTACH THE FUEL LINES, AND STEP ON THE STARTER AND GO. THE UNITS WERE FLOW TESTED AND DIALED IN AND READY TO RUN PERFECTLY - AND THEY DO!! I CANNOT SAY ENOUGH GOOD WORDS ABOUT THESE GUYS. THEY KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING. FOR ANYONE WANTING TO SEE THE RESULTS, SEND ME A PM AND I WILL SEND YOU PHOTOS TO SEE WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. TERRY WIEGAND DOO DAH AMERICA terrywiegand@prodigy.net
Hey Terry, how are you?
Thanks for helping me too, but i already talked to them and they don't have this heat riser, they have a lot of, but this one in specific they don't have. They already helped me with this problem, they confirmed the model and application. But anyway thanks for responding.
Eduardo
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give me a call at 1 231 357 3009 or email me at buickregistry@aol.com i can help you . also i have 5 33 buicks and have owned 15 33s paul
Thanks Paul, i have sent you an e-mail.
Eduardo
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Depends on the model, I think you said you have a model 50, which would be 146-615 ( complete ) For my 90 it's 146- 612. I see no 146-117 anywhere, up or down in years , maybe a Hudson or something ??
Hello, my heat riser is really a 146-117, i bought from rand, but this heat riser is very similar to the original, the linkage, everytinhg. i'll post picture, but i think the throttle hole is thinner than the right one. [ATTACH=CONFIG]190840[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]190841[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]190842[/ATTACH][ATTACH=CONFIG]190843[/ATTACH]
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Hello, please, someone could help me again, i have a 1933 Buick, but i don't know the right heat riser i have to use! someone haves a numbers application of heat riser? i bought a 146-117 with brand, but it seems to be smaller that the original one - my exhaust is bigger, just a little. my exhaust number is 1281556-1.
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For those that want to save some $$ and you have the original harnesses, You can buy the original style wire from John Brillman. He has all the loom and connectors. You can also upgrade to heavire wires if you choose to go to higher wattage lamps or add additional items like turn signals and electric fuel pumps. Cost is about 1/10 of the assemblies from the usual places. I have the wire info ( lengths, braid pattern, color and connectors) for 32 Buicks on a spreadsheet in excel if anyone needs that info send me a pm as it's too complex to attach these files to the forum.
Bob Engle
Tks Bob but my car don't have nothing in his harneess. i have to buy a new one anyway. tks
Eduardo
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Eduardo- Another thing I found VERY important: lay out the entire harness, as if it's going in the car, on the living room floor . Study it. A lot. Then understand all the terms in the instructions, these are automotive electrical terms. Put all this in your head, then head to the car. I'm assuming you have a shop manual on the system too. I think they provide that anyway. Before you start, understand it, then go for it.
Thanks my friend, I opted for the Harnesses Unlimited because my car is to much like yours and i liked the website. But i have one more question, my car doesn't have the device at the end of the steering column, what device is that? just the hand throttle? or have a headlight device too? where is the head light swicth? tks
Eduardo
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I'm fine, thank you. I used Harnesses Unlimited for my 33 90. But I've used Rhode Island Wiring in the past also on other cars . You can find them on the computer search. The one on my 90 fit like a glove . Good luck with it. Sandy
I just find in two sites that you told me, which one do you recommend? the harnesses unlimited is for the whole car? including panel? from what I understand, the one that fit like a glove is the harnesses unlimited, right? if yes, i'll buy this one. tks a lot for the help.
Eduardo
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The car had a box full of wire harnesses wire, clips etc from Harnesses Unlimited, still in the plastic wrap. I called them and they sent a full diagram, instructions . Still awful foreign to me, but I'll learn.
I've been restoring the lights as I go, had some problems with using a test light but got that solved thanks to some Buick guys here.
Got the fender lights working today and the connections for the tail lights.
Car is up on jack stands waiting for the wheels to come back from the shop, painting them to match body color as correct.
Appreciate the help.
Sandy
Hey Sandy, how are you?
i need the wiring harneess to use in my 1933 Buick too, but i can't find. Do you know someone that haves this wires? coated cloth? tks
Eduardo
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You guys would make good 1930s gangsters, driving away from a bank robbery ! I have never seen any specs on the 1933 exhaust manifold. If you have it running now, leave it and start a search for a 1933 exhaust manifold. Only thing I can see to do is attempt to repare the one that is on the car. I've seen a couple 33 Buicks come up on Ebay in the last month or two, one looked like a parts car.
There is a picture of a exhaust manifold in the 33 Shop manual but won't do you much good.
Not much I can do for you without the parts you need. Assist you where I can
I understand that, no problem, i'll try to find some exhaust manifold, i think is my only way out.
But tks anyway, your help is being very welcome.
if you like vintage cars, take a look in this video:
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Eduardo,
If you are not building your car for show, I would leave it alone and go with what you have........
I just got the "rough" quotes for the exhaust manifold for my '40 Buick (with the 320cid engine), and just the front and rear section casting patterns are over ten grand........... Lord knows what the center and lower sections will be for patterns. We haven't even started to talk about what the actual casting and machining costs will be.
To find a resonably good exhaust manifold for a '33 is going to take some real digging. and I wish you luck...........
Mike in Colorado
Hello Mike,
I agree with you in everything you said, but i like the original Buick crazy project, is complex, it's beautiful. My friend have a 1929 DeSoto Six and we turn back the updraft original carb system, the car looks like a clock. Here in Brazil now have a vintage car race, is in a go-kart track, so does not require a lot of cars, but look at that beautiful thing. The DeSoto and the Buick racing.
but thanks for the help, i know that i'll have a hard way ahead.
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This is the Concorde, a brazilian project and built, like the excalibur, but to much beautifull i think.
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Yes, I can see what's been done- I'm not as good as a mechanic as the rest of the group, but they can fill in.
I have to be brief tonight , but it looks like the intake manifold has been installed, upside down, as normal to install the downdraft Carb. I know of this being done, but never seen it.
You have some big issues, as normal, with the exhaust manifold.
I'll need to get my book out to make sure I use the correct terms, tomorrow.
The exhaust manifold is your first issue, not good for a 1933 80/90. In my humble opinion, you need to solve that first, before even starting or just toss $$$ away. I can't help in that area and I'm dead serious, going to be tough to find one or repair- But it's a machine, so something can always be done.
Start there. Without that corrected, you can't start.
If the car isn't running at all, you might take the whole section off and begin the hunt and see what else needs to be done.
You won't even be able to hook up a heat riser in this condition, the port has been welded over.
OCM
Unfortunately here in Brazil, car is not a Culture as there in USA, i'd love it to be, because i love cars, it all impresses me. I have 27 years old and my brother have 23, our grandfather was a great car collector here in Brazil and we inherited this passion from him. However, restore cars here is an art, further, when it comes to vintage cars, most of peaces have to be created from a sample, which are often taken from books. Here we do Bodyshop, painting, mechanical, electrical, upholstery and finishing, all this my brother and i, we don't have any employee. Our grandfather built the Concorde, a car that was built in the '70s, with vintage inspiration. This fact affected the entire world, appeared in newspapers around the world, including the automaker Lincoln invited him to the U.S. to build this car on the chassis of them.
The exhaust manifold is well "screwed", but I think I can still take care of him, if I have an exploded view of the system, I believe that I can create the missing parts, I tried to look at a lot of places and have not found, bought catalogs on ebay, but none that shows the need.
I too appreciate the help that is giving me, the pictures of your car already helped me do a lot in mine.
Anyway, I told this story to show that here all we have to create a lot, because Brazil not of great importance to cars, as it should.
Thanks again. i'll post 2 pictures of Concorde, this 2 cars are mine, take a look.
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I'll check. You will need a lot more then just the Marvel & heat riser, hand throttle, choke connection etc. Are you set up with the pre-heat device too? Odd thing.
OCM
Hello, how are you? thanks a lot for responding this thread and try to help me. i post some pictures of my actual manifold system, but i think i'll need everything that you said. what do you think?
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Hi Eduardo
That's great! let us know how you get on- we like pictures!
cheers
jules
Hello, i'll post some pictures... but now i need the complete heat control system, because my car is using a downdraft system adapted, and i need to came back the original system. if anyone knows where can i found it? tks
Eduardo
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Hello Jules I followed your advice and bought on ebay with this seller. The carb is already here with me and now i have to restore the system. tks everyone for helping.
Eduardo
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Pint 4 has an ad that he is looking for an exhaust manifold for a 1933 model 60. Are these compatible? These are from a 1933 Buick model 86. Any idea of value?
Hello, i'm Eduardo, i looked at your photos and i see that i need the carb holder, that joins the center exhaust manifold to intake manifold, do you have it? or this entire parts of the photo? tks
Eduardo
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10-1514, 80-90 series. I don't want to sell my spare but might try Buick Registry, Paul Rickman.
Sandy
That's right, is important have more than one of rare parts. i'll try to talk with Paul and ask him, but i think he don't have, but who knows,he does not know someone who has.
Thanks for replying!
Eduardo
Regards
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I have a 10-1515 Marvel that I think is for a 33 Buick. I don't know the carb model numbers to know what fits what. I do know that the intake casting is definitely diffferent between 32 and 33.
Let me know if you are interested. The carb looks in great shape.
Bob
Hello Bob, thanks for replying, but your carb is original in the series 50, unfortunately. Is a little harder to find, but i'll keep looking for. Thanks a lot.
Eduardo
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I have an extra marvel 2 bbl updraft that came with my 32 60 series. Not sure if they are the same, maybe someone here would know, I know it needs a new float and bowl cover, the rest is in good shape, had it working on my car.
Hello, thanks for replying, but the series 60 original carb is the 10-1518, my engine uses the same carburator that the series 90, unfortunately. Is a little harder to find, but i'll keep looking for. Thanks a lot!
Eduardo
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Hello everyone, i know that we have in this Forum a lots of posts about carbs, but i need a Marvel 10-1514, to use in my 1933 Buick series 80 model 86C. Does anyone here have it?
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sorry about Dave, so sad, at this time he would be so much helpfull.
I found the plate in the frame that he told, the number is 2677174, i think my car is a 86C because he have an 130 inch wheel base, 6 hood doors, the door glasses never existed, have 2 fender wire wheel, rumble seat.
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Hello Dave Corbin, how are you?
Two years later and i still have the same doubt about my 1933 Buick, remember me? in this same forum i asked about the engine and model, but i never sent you the plate information of my Buick. Sorry about that, but i had some problems and i just came back now. So in my 1933 Buick have a plate that says MOD 86C, JOB Nº 33018, BODY Nº 57, TRIM Nº 181, PAINT Nº 325. This plate doesn't tell the MO, DAY or YEAR.
This Buick looks like a Roadster, convertible, don't have door windows, have fender wheels, have six air outlets in the hood, while most have five. if you want i can send you pictures of it.
TKS
Eduardo
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Eduardo
If Dave Corbin does not show up hear in a couple of days,
I would click on his name and send him an email or a private message.
He does seem to be the man with all the Buick numbers.
Good luck with your search.
Doug
hi Doug, thanks a lot... i was seen Dave is the man about buick's!
thanks
Eduardo
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Dear Doug:
In response to your list, here is what was in the Buick factory numbers:
(all by engine number)
1485463 1926 model 47
630796 1920 K44
1023423 1923 model 39
362174 1918 E44
468623 1918 E45
570945 1920 K45
195580 1916 D45
984409 1923 model 55
933916 1923 model 45
171325 1916 D45
373470 1918 E35
469629 1918 E45 or E49
883822 1922 model 46
I hope this answers your questions about these early Buick titles. I got the model numbers from using the frame numbers you gave. In all cases, the frame numbers would have had the engine number you gave as the original engine.
Regards, Dave Corbin
Hello everyone... i'm new here, so i need a help to identify my 1933 convertible coupe buick.
the number in the engine is 2830538 (only this 7 numbers). i think the serial number of the car is the same but don't really know. i'm from brazil, so if i had anything wrong, sorry. but if anyone help me with these i will bee very thankful.
thanks
Eduardo
Regards
1931 Buick Series 90 Engine
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Do you have it yet?
tks
Eduardo