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5 hours ago, Walt G said:
Great photos of the Australian Chrysler Royal but we are starting to stray a bit beyond the era that this thread is located under - Pre WWII era vehicles. If it would be possible perhaps someone could start a post WII era period photos of the era thread ? Not a complaint , just trying to continue to stay on focus of the era after 2 years of contributions. I can well understand and appreciate the enthusiasm to want to contribute but please try to stay with what the intention was when it started. Thank you.
Point taken. There is already a Post WW2 page, it is just that I spend more time on the Pre WW2 one.
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5 hours ago, LCK81403 said:
Correct, this American has not known about a '57 Chrysler Royal AP-1. Interesting photo and thank you for sharing. Do you have more photos of the car? From seeing the single view it is difficult to speculate about the styling basis for the car. Reviewing photos of U.S. Chrysler models dating from 1957 and earlier, the 57 Chrysler Royal AP-1 looks nothing like the U.S. Chrysler. The front end appears to suggest styling by Holden of England. The 1961-62 Holden EK model has somewhat of the frontal design of the '57 Chrysler Royal AP-1.
If you read the wiki article about the Chrysler Royal that I linked there you will see the reason why it came about. One positive from it was that being a full chassis car at a time when makers were going to uni-body construction it provided the basis for a generation of ambulances and hearses.
Holden was not English, it was Australian. It had connections to GM from as early as the late teens (it became part of GM in 1931), and even though their cars are regarded as 'purely' Australian they always had connections to Detroit (and in later years to GM Europe). The styling influences for EK and its immediate predecessors can be seen in the '55 Chev.
Point taken from Walt about the photo being 'out of period'. I don't often look at the post WW2 page.
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15 hours ago, JRA said:
Interesting running board accessory.
Are you referring to the one in the hat? Or to the foot rest, which is for the slide-out seat.
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Something that most Americans will not recognise - an Australian Chrysler Royal. This is the first version, the AP 1, from 1957. Photo taken in New Zealand in the early 1960s. Power plant is most likely the 230 cid flathead six.
Chrysler Royal (Australia) - Wikipedia
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Could this be an Overland?
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I can't be certain even of this is a UK or US truck. Hopefully someone might recognise it.
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Photo from the Te Awamutu museum.
Is it identifiable by date and model?
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I am still unsure what our mystery Olds is. I think what might confirm it is of someone knows if the last year Autocrat (1912) got the built-in col lights that Defender - which ran for 1912 and 1913 only - had.
The Defender was a much smaller car - 116" wheelbase and 36 x 4 tyres vs 126" wheelbase and 38 x 4 1/2 tyres for the Autocrat.
The Defender engine was much smaller as well - 4" bore x 5 15/16" stroke for 276 cid vs 5" x 6" for 471 cid for the Autocrat.
I think what is confusing us is the inlet manifold which we have not found a match for. I wonder of someone has any illustrated parts books for this era.
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14 hours ago, Gunsmoke said:
Citroen appears to be about 1924 Town Coupe, high cab, suicide doors etc, and based on rad shape and eyebrows on front fenders. So K31 is on mark, likely mid 20's DB.
Of course Vintman knows his early Citroens - Vintage Citroen Register (svvs.org)
This is his cabriolet - A brief history of Andre Citroen and of the 5CV Citroen Model C (svvs.org)
It was in the shed when I was there in 2016 but I appear to have neglected to get a photo.😕
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1 hour ago, Vintman said:
Thanks Folks. Can anybody give me actual year and model of the Dodge as I am having some difficulty in matching the radiator? It seems to have a chrome strip along the edge.
Regards
Vintman
That is a painted radiator - with the light reflecting off it. I think it will be near impossible to date accurately as identifying features are not readily visible. 1923 was the last year for no hood louvres. 1924 supposedly has a higher radiator but they are hard to tell apart. For 1925 they changed from 24" wheels to 20s.
I reckon it is a 1924 model. What doesn't help is Dodge essentially made only one line of cars but did mid year model introductions and made interim changes as well. From 1925 there was a 'Special' line - with plated radiator shells, bumpers as standard and other features. As far as a model name goes from 1923 to 1925 they were simply Series 116. And of course there are those that insist on referring to them as Dodge Brothers. It does say that on the radiator badge but of course by 1924 the brothers had been dead for several years.
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This photo appears occasionally on facebook pages. Not been identified as far as I know.
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Some thoughts from twin6 on the subject -
"The images aren’t of the best resolution, but that’s often the case with mystery pix!
I think the runabout/modified car is consistent with a 1909 model 30 based on what we can make out of the radiator neck/cap, with 1910 front fenders. The hood/bonnet former that is so pronounced on an 18 is not there. The whole firewall/windscreen setup looks modified. I’d hate to stake my life on that identification.
The touring car looks to be a 1909 model 30, again based on type of front fender (one year) and the radiator neck/cap. I suppose it’s possible this car was modified to create the chief’s runabout, but again, I’d hate to bet my life on it."
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4 hours ago, motoringicons said:
That would be my assumption as well. The car in question is a Packard Model 30 which was a fast, well built, and expensive car for the era. It makes sense that they would have modified it for continued usage. This would not have been uncommon during this period. The things I noticed are the wheels have been cut down and now have balloon tires, the gas lights have been changed to electric, and, of course, the body modifications. The first photo must have been taken around the mid-1920s (or later) as that would be the year range of the Model T coupe seen in the background. Somebody might be able to blow up the photo enough to read the license plate to determine the exact year.
I reckon that plate on the T is 1924 -
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31 minutes ago, Oldtech said:
I'd say it's the 15 runabout. Pre 18 as vertical windshield.
The D series cars were regarded as 1916 models but they went into production in mid 1915 so I guess this could be a '1915' D-44.
It doesn't look big enough to be a C-54.
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Buick - 1916-ish.
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8 hours ago, twin6 said:
Many thanks to Walt, the contributors and especially AACA for allowing and supporting this! Here's a FIAT with a Quinby body to start the week. To me, the motorists are as interesting as the car. The closeup shows the Quinby plate and also shows that the pipe smoking passenger wore spats. You just don't see many motorists today wearing spats and bearskin coats.
I wonder if the car in this link with lots of photos of a surviving example is the same actual car. I guess they must have sold a few but they were a seriously expensive piece of kit.
1905 FIAT 60HP Five-Passenger Tourer by Quinby & Co. (car-revs-daily.com)
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The important thing re the Jenatzy car was that it was the first car purpose built to attempt the record, the first to go over 100kph, and it was the last electric car to take the record
For his earlier attempts - only a few weeks before the 100kph run - he used this electric dogcart. Still managed 80 kph.
Lots more here - Camille Jenatzy - Wikiwand
His main competitor was - https://www.wikiwand.com/fr/Gaston_de_Chasseloup-Lauba
I left the French version in the link as it seems to have more info. English can be selected at top right.
It is noticeable that even though both competing purpose built electrics had 'aerodynamic' shapes, the driver remained exposed in the air stream on both.
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3 hours ago, Walt G said:
Ok, with all the current talk about how electric vehicles will now be the way to go to save the environment, world and humanity we will take a look back at how this same idea was current over a century ago in Europe - electrics were the new wave in horseless carriages, men wore hats - panama and derby ( now that I can agree should be current, especially the derby - we can all look like Stan & Ollie! ) Plug her in fellas.
First photo with the flower draped car and the umbrella holding damsel perched on the rear of the car on her rea........ anyway is Jenatzy ( he is the driver) in the "Jamais Contenre" after his victory in 1899. this is in France , notice how small the wheels/tires are.
Second photo is in 1896 and electric coupe with Morris & ? can't make out the name clearly, rear of photo notes it was printed by Joseph Klima Jr. Photographer of Detroit ( before zip code era so has to be at least 60-70 year old print) If you can see it there is a huge drive gear on the inside of the front wheel - love the look of the painted wheels with the spokes and panels between the spokes - all wood sanded and polished to perfection.
That front wheel drive cab won't go far on that left front tyre.
I think there was quite a large fleet of Krieger electric taxis in New York but only for a relatively brief period.
From the info with this post card it seems they were in London as well. How many I have no idea but by about 1908 they began to import large numbers of petrol-powered Unics to use as taxis, and there were other makes involved as well - Napier was one.
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6 hours ago, 28 Chrysler said:
That might be an under floor handicap ramp the jacket-less ma is sitting on.
I reckon that is a 'box' of some sort sitting on the running board. The bottom of the door must be high enough to clear it.
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An accessory item?
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This was posted on a facebook page. Looks to be a screen grab from a movie. Not the sort of car usually seen a police car. Looks to be to be a 1938 Buick Limited with a custom body.
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At a glance this looks like a 1929 or 1930 Whippet, but the badge is wrong and it has extra park lamps.
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On 4/7/2022 at 3:38 PM, LCK81403 said:
Regarding the United truck. In "The Automobile" of September 1, 1910, page 382, column 2, the article said the following: "A record was established recently by a two-ton United States Motor truck on a three days' run from Cincinnati to Chicago. The distance of 361.4 miles was covered in about 26 hours and 15 minutes. Twenty-six gallons of gasoline and two and one-half gallons of oil were consumed on the trip. The demonstration was made by Norman S. Hill, sales manager of the United States Motor Truck Company of Cincinnati...."
Another article in the same publication, dated January 20, 1921, column 1, page 148, under "Financial Notes", related that United States Motor Truck Co. paid on Jan. 10 the annual 7 per cent cash dividend....
Unfortunately I have no photos of a United States truck, or possibly the one and the same "United" truck. I have no non-U.S. listing for a United truck. The 1910 and 1921 articles show that United States Motor Truck Company was in operation for at least 11 years, or more, yet photos of a United States truck are very hard to find. A June 15, 1916 ad for a United States Motor Truck does not show front fenders and radiator similar to the "United" truck which may or may not be related to different production years, or totally different trucks.
More on the subject of 'United'. It appears that the vehicle in my photo had previously been a bus, one of about 20 that were in service in the Auckland area in the 1920s.
This is an ad from the local newspaper, The Herald, from May 1927.
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