bobs1916 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 gentsI believe that the starter generator on my 1916 is not charging properly... What should I do to trouble shoot this issue??? thanksbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldsmobile1915 Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 starter / generator... does it crank? If so the generator "motors" which means it's most likely not at the starter / generator but the regulator. My suggestion is Dyke's Automotive encyclopedia (which can be downloaded free from google in google books) roughly the 1918 edition. It will have trouble shooting techniques, adjustment how to's, and rebuilding instructions for your starting / charging system. If you can't find it right away, email me at "ritthesis at yahoo dot com" and I can give you the link directly.Best of luck, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldodgeboys Posted October 8, 2008 Share Posted October 8, 2008 I didn't know you can download Dyke's on Google books. I took a quick look this morning but couldn't find how to download it. Does it work for other Dyke's editions also; I'm looking for the 14th edition (1926)? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs1916 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Histarter /generator cranks like a champ!!!.I thought that the early generators run as a starter at first then at like 5 mph they reverse to a chaging unit ???any help??bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_RAH Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Bob, You did not mention the serial number but generally a '16 should still have the 4 wire N/E model 'D' unit. (up to 90,000). This unit has the cutout relay and vibrating regulator relays built into the unit. Remove the top cover and check the fuse. As a rule the generator function does not 'kick in' 'till around 10 mph and self regulates to max output around 35. As speeds increase past that it will decrease and even go back to nearly zero if travelling very fast. Adjustment on these early units are tricky and not recommended. The Model 'G' or later 'GA' have adjustment screws on the back. Rodger "Dodger" Hartley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs1916 Posted October 9, 2008 Author Share Posted October 9, 2008 Roger my 16 has the later generator with the external fuse. How then do I regulate the charging function??thanksbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_RAH Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 Bob, On the model G (with fuse on rear) the slotted 'adjust' screw is recessed and so marked. The lock is opposite the center bearing plate. On the model GA ( with the fuse in a tub on front) the 'adjust' and lock are 5/16" hex screws adjacent to each other. Rotating clockwise increases output.If these do not make a significant difference it may be time to consider a rebuild. Good Luck.Rodger "Dodger" Hartley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imouttahere Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 "Check out what has been going on in my shop with my Oldsmobiles and tell me what you think!!"OK, I think this is a Dodge Brothers group and, in all candor, I am not too interested in Oldsmobiles.Also, there is no need for a Dodge Brother to refer to Dyke's when there is a plethora of D.B.-specific repair information available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest oldodgeboys Posted October 10, 2008 Share Posted October 10, 2008 I like Dyke's...er, maybe I should keep that to myself... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs1916 Posted October 11, 2008 Author Share Posted October 11, 2008 Rogerthanks that's what I wanted to know. I have a model GA ....BUT if a rebuild is needed would you suggest getting the correct starter generator rebuilt as I do have one... Are these early units (4 wire) as reliable as the GA? Also is there a recommended rebuilder of these units that you are aware of?? thanks againbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_RAH Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Bob, I presume you are a Dodge Brothers Club member. Send me a personal email (address in DBC News) and I will discuss rebuild of your existing Model 'D' unit off line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imouttahere Posted October 12, 2008 Share Posted October 12, 2008 Have it rebuilt locally by a good generator shop. There's nothing magic about it that a good generator repair person can't fix. DB starter-generators are so heavy that shipping them is virtually cost-prohibitive; or at least, shipping both ways will cost you more than the rebuild. Have the local generator shop diagnose the problem; then buy <span style="font-style: italic">only</span> the part you need and have the generator shop install it.Furthermore, I have found from sad experience that some of the DB parts companies that advertise rebuilt starter-generators do a shoddy job. At least with a local generator shop you have some control over the result, and can take it back and complain if it doesn't work right. If you buy a rebuilt and it doesn't work, it would not be cost effective to return it, so you can't really effectively complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobs1916 Posted October 13, 2008 Author Share Posted October 13, 2008 RahI will follow up off line...Yes I am a DBC mrmberbob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jack27 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Talk to Rodger Hartley in Tacoma 253-752-7901. He is the DB Club Tech. Adviser for 4 cyl cars.Also he knows a lot ablout the electrical systems.REmember he is on PST.Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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