Twitch Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Yesterday I was piddling with my car and adjusting the carb so I killed the engine several times in a row. Anyhow the starter eventually quit afer several starts all in a short period. Solenoid was clicking but no go. I pulled it- 2 bolts to loosen from standing position <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />- and found a couple pieces of bright copper fall out of the brush access holes. Looked like slightly flattened piece of wire 1 1/4" long and another chunk. Coulda been from the windings, I dunno. So I called Kanter and they had one. I ordered a solenoid too. My question is how good are their rebuilt parts like starters, generators, distributors etc.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Sounds almost like you exploded the armature, make sure that any starter rebuild shop also replaces the starter bendix, I have 2 Armature here that have been spun too fast and spun the windings when the bexdix did not relaese properly. Check around to the local starter shops and they should be able to rebuild it with out a problem, have had a 55 don local for adound $100cdn with rebuile armature and new bendix installed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 The pieces u describe sound like the field coil ends. If the armature or fields are bad then those are expensive to replace unless a local shop has some in stock and if its 6v they probably do not. If the armature is bad or the field coils are bad then i'm sure that would constitute a "NON-rebuildable starter" (by rebuilder standards) and would not count toward your core. I've good luck with Kanter basic parts like valves gaskets but i've never tried any of Kanters assembled units. There is only 2wo bolts that hold that starter together. Take the silly thing apart and look at it. They are amazingly simple. Less than maybe 15 parts inside of a starter. Look for the parts on eBay and put'em in yourself.My experience with ONE vendor is that it took about 3 weeks to ship small box of parts to me about $150 worth on my card. The parts were excellent but customer service lacking. By the time u wait u just mite find the parts or a rebuilder locally.try Joel for parts or maybe even a starter. he is "Packards1" here in this forum. I've always had good luck doing businness with him. Packards1@aol.com i think thats it. OR Mike Dulinski mnpacsler@aol.com up in minnisota is another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted January 26, 2005 Author Share Posted January 26, 2005 I may just keep the old one and find a rebuilder. It's been SO long since I had a generator rebuilt I have to search them out. It's $150 core charge to Kanter though. As for starters, the local auto parts chains can't be beat with 7 year/70,000 mile guarantees so that's where I've gotten them for many cars not this old and haven't rebuilt in ages. Yeah the old starter just acted as though it froze from the straining sound it made- wouldn't turn, a little smoke. It would turn by hand though. The bendix was as perfect as can be with every tooth pristine. The Kanter price of $209 is not too bad considering a modern car's equivilent part price. Hopefully this is one less problem to deal with in the furure. I just didn't know if their stuff was good or cheezy and would last just a couple thousand miles or something.There is just some stuff that I can see makes sense to buy when you find them for future. Like I just got a thermostat on Ebay for $7 that I don't need yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JT Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 Yes I would say the commutator has come apart. I picked up a spare starter for mine which I had rebuilt at the local shop for under $100 at the same time I had my original rebuilt. Chances are I will never need the spare, that is unless I were to get rid of it. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted January 26, 2005 Share Posted January 26, 2005 I have had two armatures come apart and neather has damaged the fields, I have seen new armatures on E-bay a few times, check the part # databast as to what one will fit, and I can the cross that # over and see if it may also fit a Pontiac or Chev as well, there is a number stamped into the armature as well whic should be ther same # as in the Database. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 Pretty good shipping service. I received the starter exactly a week after it left NJ via UPS ground. The solenoid appeard new, new also. Now I can make club cruise Saturday afternoon! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 Whooaa! The rebuilt starter spins way faster that the old one! Best part was a simple install standing, not laying under the car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted February 3, 2005 Share Posted February 3, 2005 Great <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> * You're On the Road Again * Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Randy Berger Posted February 4, 2005 Share Posted February 4, 2005 Twitch, I used to sit down alongside the engine in my 52 and work on it. Loved those straight eights. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />YFAM, Randy Berger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Pushbutton Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 See, You have proven what I was saying all along in the "24 volt experiment" thread. You now have a starter in proper working order, with all parts in good health (and proper resistance) and it is cranking her just fine. The ghost of "Boss" Kettering is smiling now! John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted February 5, 2005 Share Posted February 5, 2005 Man, Now I know what they mean by "Beating the Horse", But I beleave it's neither a "Dead" or even "Sick Horse". <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> More Voltage is like More Horsepower, 'Always Good, When In Need'. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted February 5, 2005 Author Share Posted February 5, 2005 Exactly. New is new and works like it should. Since I recently got the car I had no idea of how a new starter sounds. SO this was a noticable improvement though the old starter was starting the car fine. Things like slowed down starters aren't noticeable to the owner who lives with the car and doesn't notice as the spin power slowly goes away. Then you bolt on a new one and go "what that?"Brakes getting lower and steering pulling a little are also things we get used to if we drive a car every day and automatically compensate for it. Some one else drives your car and tells it right away. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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