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I just watched the pilot episode of this show which was supposed to take place in 1960. Naturally I'm interested in watching period cars - they had a lot of nice ones, unfortunately ONLY ONE was built in 1960 or earlier! I saw a 61 or 62 Lincoln, 62 Thunderbird, 62 Cadillac, 64 Pontiac, and a few 62 and 63 Ford police cars...the only correct car I saw was a 56 or 57 Buick. I know you see this sort of thing all the time in period movies and TV shows but I don't think I've ever seen one that was this totally wrong. Part of why it got me was that so many of the 1960 cars were so unique and totally different from the later cars they used. My wife just laughed at me but I had to vent somewhere!
I also saw this, and while I also complain about incorrect cars in a period movie or show, this has to be the absolute worst I have ever seen. Not a single car correct that I could see until they got to the 1956 Buick. How hard can it be to simply not use anything built after 1960? It is not like they are specific hard to find rare vehicles that you are looking for and had to settle for something close. The are plenty of 1950's cars out there. This just makes me think they simply don't care. I was shaking my head so much I didn't even pay any attention to what was going on in the show.
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I just got back from there. I've gone to Motor Muster there many times, but this was my first time to Old Car Fest. Pre-1932 is really not my area of interest, but I still had a great time there, and wouldn't mind going back again. The camping display was interesting too.
Went back the next day for the museum and Titanic exhibit. Managed to fall victim and buy a little repro compote souvenier.
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One of my favorite movies, The Gay Divorcee, has Ginger Rogers driving a Duesenberg in a very fake chase scene with Fred Astaire chasing and catching her in an American Austin? I think. But she makes up for it with one of the best movie car quotes ever when he blocks her Duesenberg in with it. "Are you going to move your car, or don't you want it anymore?"
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I was looking for a 1962 Imperial at one point. Kept coming across an Ebay auction for a 1963 LeBaron that looked like it was pulled out of a junkyard. Not one piece that didn't need work done to it. But it supposedly had every option. So the seller was asking $100,000.00. When mint ones go for less than $25,000.
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I don't understand why anyone even bothers trying to compile a list like this. It is basically a list of the author's favorite cars that he has seen. Meaning it does not include anything he is not familiar with. Apparently that would be anything other than postwar sports and muscle cars for this author.
I wouldn't even bother trying to compile a list like this of my own. Even if I listed my 10 favorite cars, that does not necessarily mean they are the most aesthetically beautiful, and they may not be to everyone's taste. And cars that are renowned for their beauty as art objects are not always cars that are favorites of mine.
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I have to wonder how accurate these figures are as well. I don't see too many 1994 Hondas and Toyotas driving around here any more. I also think that anyone that owns one would be driving it as a beater, not taking meticulous care of it and making sure it has everything working with replacement parts. So I really don't see how there would be such a huge demand for stolen parts from these 18 year old cars as opposed to 5-10 year old Hondas and Toyotas.
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If the material is plain black, they were replaced. If they were denim "looking" with the "LEVI" tag, they are original.
They actually looked sort of like a ribbed corduroy, but were more nylon-like material. And they did have Levi tags on them. Seems like it would be a wasted effort to sew Levi tags on but use the incorrect fabric. Too bad I didn't have a camera with me.
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Interesting, but the seats didn't look like those either. Those look more like jeans.
The seats I saw looked sort of like the base material used for 2010-12 Camaro seats. A material I described as "the top of cheap mens dress socks", and paid extra to get rid of.
But based on the pic showing it in black, maybe other black variations were available over the years.
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I have seen Levi's Gremlins before, but they have always had material that looked like blue jeans for seats.
This weekend I saw one that was a green Gremlin X, and said Levi's on the fender. It also had Levi's tags on the seats. However, the seats were black. They were not even jeans type material, but just some sort of unusual black cloth. Did they make Levi's Gremlins with black seats like this, or is someone just putting fake tags on it?
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As stated, the "designer edition" Lincolns had their own special and unique colors, specific to WHICH designer series it was. The Bill Blass editions looked pretty neat when they came out, but by the time that series was over, I'd tired of looking at that particular color combination. Might there be some "solid" documentation in the VIN or on the ID plate to verify the special edition status, in addition to color codes? Just curious. Otherwise, a refinished special edition (refinished in a different color combination!) might be "the real deal" and otherwise look bogus?
There is nothing in the VIN, not sure if the ID plate would show anything other than the correct color for the designer edition. In any case, those would only be needed if someone had painted and upholstered a non-designer edition to look like one. When you are looking at one that was obviously never made in that color and upholstery and without any of the correct badging, there is no need to verify any data plate to confirm it is not that edition.
I was at the Ford 100th and saw a car that the owner was insisting was an edition that it obviously wasn't. I said I wish I had my brochure with so I could show him the difference. He pulled his out of the trunk and showed it to me. Right there in pictures and listed in the description it stated that edition only came in a special blue or gold. His was black without the special interior or anything else that edition was supposed to have. The idiot pointed at the back of the brochure showing all colors available for that year, and said "See, you can get it any of these colors." A younger Ford Motor company exec walked over to see what was going on. He agreed with me that it was not the edition the owner was claiming (in fact it was a bottom of the line nothing car). The owner then went on a tirade about how we stupid young whippersnappers (the Ford executive and I) didn't know anything.
I feel it would be the same arguing that the interior was not leather in many cars listed as such.
As an aside, the Bill Blass Edition for 1979 was the white hood, trunk, and fake convertible top with midnight blue sides. Everyone assumes they all looked like this. They only looked like that for one year, 1979. They were other colors the other years.
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There are some instances when it is difficult to tell whether you are looking at vinyl or leather. However, in 1960's and 1970's cars, it should be quite obvious. But generally it is not someone that mistakenly identified it as leather. Usually they are too lazy to do any actual research, and leather sounds much better in their ads than vinyl. This is how there are ads for Chevy Novas with leather interiors. Trying to educate them is generally not going to do any good. They will usually just argue that you do not know what you are talking about. They know so much better from having zero experience with the car.
I have a similar pet peeve with "Cartier" edition 1970's Mark IV and V and Town Car. First, there is no Cartier Edition in the 1970's. They did not exist until the 1980's. And the Mark IV and V Cartier Edition came only in specific colors of Dove Gray (1976 & 77) and Light Champage w/ Cordovan accents (1978 & 79). There are no exceptions. They also have special badging identifying them as Cartier Editions. However, every Mark and TC came with a Cartier clock. You can argue until you are blue in the face, and show them the factory brochures that confirm this. They will just tell you that you have no clue what you are talking about. They have a blue, red, green, yellow, orange, brown, etc. Cartier, and no one is going to ever convince them otherwise. It says Cartier on the clock, so they have a Cartier Edition.
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Maybe more people will be able to comment on it after they have been there for our 2013 meet
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Have you tried the usual places, Baker's Auto and Lincoln Land? I had just the opposite problem when I had my '79 Cartier. Hot air coming in all the time.
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Yes, I have been there a couple of times. In fact, my friend (and I'm helping) is organizing the Grand Invitational for the Professional Car Society in 2013, and that will be a stop on the tour.
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I regularly ship ocean containers to Antwerp at work, and was quite happy that I had nothing on this vessel.
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My 1979 Continental Mark V Cartier was my daily driver and only car from 1996 - 2004. I really enjoyed driving it daily. However, the Givenchy has never seen daily use. Chicago winters caused too much rust on the 1979, and I do not want to deal with that again. Not to mention gas prices were a lot more reasonable then.
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I saw part of this serial a couple of weeks ago. I have to say I was disappointed with the Green Hornet's car as I had no idea what to expect in the 1930's. Only knew about the 1960's Imperials. For this he had a 1937 Lincoln Zephyr coupe with what looked like aluminum foil stepped fake trim. Pretty tacky and not very well disguised or impressive.
As many car might be destroyed in this series, at least they were just beaters at the time. Not like the stupid recent Green Hornet movie destroying 29 antique Imperials for a lame movie.
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The first station is very cool Art Deco looking. Frank Lloyd Wright is just ok, but the rest just appear to be average looking old stations. There have been other really cool stations in the past. I was hoping to see more of those.
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As much as I like cars, I rarely watch any TV shows about them. Two thoughts on this show.
1. Even if they start out with a few legitimate barn finds, eventually they will start doing fake staged ones. Can't be easy to come up with new barn finds every week.
2. I hope not for this show, but most "restorations" end up being rods and customs.
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Three things.
1. They don't know where to ask, and post a whole bunch of different places, then don't remember where they posted.
2. They posted because they had this wonderful idea, then promptly forgot about it.
3. Many people today simply have no common courtesy to respond with a thank you.
I have had this happen to me before also. I posted a question, and in the meantime got an answer someplace else. When I checked back later, there was a long post but with all incorrect info. To avoid being rude or an argument, I simply said thanks. But then they have been all bent out of shape because they wrote 15 paragraphs, and I wrote one sentence that said thanks. What else am I supposed to say for info that is not helpful?
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Linc . . . you might want a full-size spare in the Camaro, BUT from the people I've heard about who had those AND had to use them, after the "affair" of getting things out of the car, then back IN the car, considering that small "hole" of access to the luggage area and spare tire, that can of tire sealer might be a better option . . . as flaky at that might seem.
Just some thoughts,
NTX5467
A large section of the trunk floor comes out to access the spare below it. Even if it is difficult to remove (didn't look that difficult when I checked to make sure it was there), I'd rather spend the time trying to get it out and change it than sitting there waiting an hour or 2 for a tow truck to show up.
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My new Camaro I just bought came with a standard can of fix-a-flat stuff. I could not believe a donut spare was $150 otherwise it came with an Autozone type can. If it hadn't been on the options list, I probably would have had no clue to even look for such a thing. Probably won't be used, but I insisted on an actual spare.
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Actually the exterior does not look too bad. Don't know why they did this on a 150,000 mile car with shot interior though.
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I would think they would have glass or something between the JAIL BIRD, and the cop. I can see it now, the JAIL BIRD hitting the cop, yanking on the handle bar causing it to wreck.
Funny,
Dale in Indy
That was my first thought. Maybe criminals were better behaved back then.
1959 Chevrolet Crash Test - safety photo
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I suppose I shouldn't comment on that.