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  1. I am a part time court paid Arbitrator for automotive related disputes and I can assure you that censoring of complaints, disputes, or opinions regarding a vendor's product or workmanship does not necessarily lessen or prevent the AACA from being pulled into a lawsuit. It may in fact, increase the liability if it pertains to a known safety issue involving a vendor.

    Here are the weaknesses in the argument:

    1.) The AACA has stated that it does not have sufficient forum manpower to ensure that all posts are in conformance with the rule regarding no complaints. In reality, the rule is randomly enforced. Therefore posts have been entered and are currently active that do in fact aire negative experiences and complaints with vendor's services and products.

    2.) The AACA does not apply this rule to positive comments or compliments (contrary to Peter's posting). Thus a false sense of security can be derived from an inquiry on a given vendors product or service by a poster.

    3.) Connecting posting complaint censorship with vendor support is dangerous at best. The implication is that this rule is less about servicing the membership and more about money.

    4.) Providing a forum for the sharing of knowledge and experiences is a valid part of servicing the hobbiest, or more specifically servicing the AACA membership. To that end, allowing only one side of the story, can have detrimental effects.

    Lastly, the best defense against liability would be for a stronger supporting vendor contract which holds AACA harmless and more notification on the forum regarding opinion.

    This issue is not unique to AACA, it is sucessfully dealt with everyday by radio and TV talk shows, print media, as well as other web medium. The position that that is just the way it is, take your problem or complaint off line or to another web site can also be a dangerous solution longterm. Bettering the system that the membership, in part, pays for is a much more progressive, proactive approach in my opinion.

    Please don't get me wrong, I am a strong supporter of AACA and the old car hobby. I just believe that on this issue either the real reason is not being stated or the AACA has received some poor advice.

  2. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Steve, You are correct there is a disposal fee most times. We luck out here, about once or twice a year we can take used tires to the local DOH and they will haul them away for free.

    I found a unique use for one of Bill's damaged Legends racing tires. I bought a new plastic oil drain pan and had him drill the edges in three places and bolt it to the tire. It makes a wonderful raised food bowl, and napping spot, for my Dalmatian. After she eats her food in the morning she curls up in it for a nap. It is the only food bowl she can't play with and tear up. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>

    Susan,

    We also can dispose of tires for no cost. Our local township (in Ohio) allows up to 8 tires per month (on or off of rims) to be dropped off at a central location to every resident.

  3. I use to do a bunch of work for Johnson Controls who makes the Optima series. Antique Auto Battery (manufacturer in Ohio) doesn't use the Optima inside their maintenance free series they use an AGM (Absorbed Glass Mat) battery which has plate suspended acid. They hold a 4 year pro-rated warranty. In some applications it is said that AGM batteries are superior to the Optima technology.

    I have almost 15 of them that were put into service over 2 years ago. No failures yet but time will tell. I also put Optimas in my Model T's and Model A where they are hidden from view. Both AGM and Optima work best when a full charge is maintained on them, not with a trickle charger but rather with a load sensing battery maintainer.

    I agree that the cost of these are pretty high but if they last from 4-6 years and look correct, I can live with it.

  4. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"><div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Having just went through replacement of 2 wiring harnesses and the repair of another in my wife's car I tend to agree with the technician (formerly call a mechanic), "the new vehicles with minimal maintenance will easily run over 200K miles however when the wiring and electronics start to go it is time to junk them." Of course that didn't convince the wife who likes the car.

    I personally don't see many of today's jellybean cars being future collectibles however there are a few exceptions. </div></div>

    Ron,

    You know, I find it just a bit humorous that you would say that, considering that the very same thing was said, in writing, in The Restorer (Model A Ford Club of America) in late 1969! The then-President of MAFCA went on record, saying in his monthly editorial, that nobody, NOBODY would ever be able to restore a car from the 1950's, with its "pot metal" carburetor, complex and unmanageable automatic transmission, tin-foil body, and heat-stitched vinyl upholstery.

    I wonder if he's still living, and if so, did he have his words in that editorial served up as broiled, fried, fricassee'd, or simply nuked in the microwave, for dinner? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

    Art Anderson </div></div>

    I completely agree. Time has a funny way of making today's complexity into tomorrows novelty. We are currently restoring a 1980 Mercedes for a customer (his Father's car). The thing is computer (early single box) controlled and has a ton of vacuum operated components. It was considered very sophisticated in its day, now its kind of humorous working on it. My 22 year old employee thinks its way cool working on that "old" car.

  5. <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">That "guy" is Bill Parfet, aire to the Gilmore fortune... and he is very personable and willing to do anything asked of him to promote the hobby. He also owned the 1906 Columbia that was on the field. Many of his cars are on display at the Gilmore Museum in Kalamzaoo, Michigan. </div></div>

    West,

    Don't you mean the Upjohn fortune?

  6. I understand your point regarding the production number differences between the classic "clones" and muscle "clones". The point that I was trying to make is that a Duesenberg Derham Tourister would be treated identically to any high performance muscle car as far as authenticity is concerned, under AACA meet rules.

    To my knowledge neither have their engine numbers, body numbers, or trim tags interrogated for originality or authenticity by AACA judges. Therefore using your example, ANY Duesenberg Derham Tourister could theoretically achieve its Junior, Senior, and Grand National awards regardless or it being authentic or original.

    By the way here is one of the four originals... http://ckautollc.photosite.com/DetailingWork/31Tourister/

    I don't think that the argument is that different between the two. I've had the pleasure of attending several auctions during the past two years with a noted collector of Duesenbergs, Auburns, Packards, and Pierce Arrows. He has identified several Duesey's (he owns 8) crossing the block as "fakes" according to the factory documention of their body and engine numbers. He cringes when they bring over $1M, just as I do when I watch B-J and see muscle clones pulling huge money.

    The reality is that where there is big money involved, there are people who will do anything to get it. I just don't want to see the AACA assist them in any way if possible.

  7. Without being on the show field that day and judging the car, it is dangerous attempting to "reverse engineer" or pick apart the judging score.

    If I were in the owner's position I would go over the entire car with a fresh, unbiased, set of eyes, make any necessary corrections and give it a second shot at a National meet. I would attend that meet with factory documentation as it relates to 64-1/2 Mustangs vs 65's. When the judging team leader introduces himself to me prior to judging, I would advise him that since the vehicle is a 64-1/2 it has a number of elements that are unique to it and that I have available documentation should he have any question of correctness.

    It is understandable that you want answers to why the car didn't score what you believe it should but the reality is, as you state, you are not the vehicle's owner, and if the owner feels strongly about how the vehicle scored at Hershey she/he should write a letter to the VP of judging.

    Regardless, the vehicle is very nice looking.

  8. Your point on classics is well taken. Even in those circles however, the ultimate selling value of the rebodied vehicles is far less than those that house their authentic coach built body. A great example is a local collectors early Mercedes wood bodied skiff. The vehicle was often referred to as an original creation but later determined to have been borne a closed vehicle that was "re-created" in the style of the latter coach builder. Its value proportionately dropped when it recently sold at auction earlier this year.

    While I'm not a clone proponent, I also don't want to be the clone police either. People will be people. Some will undoubtedly try to cheat others and misrepresent their vehicle. I would simply like to keep the liability and burden of doing so where it belongs..... on the owner.

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