DavidWhite

She’s coming along. Gone through the engine, have good compression. Looking forward to the mag coming back. I have come to the conclusion that the front end was from one of his motorettes, which explains the light duty design and the short steering linkage the extends to the center. At this point in order to find a steering column that will fit the length of the firewall to where the Pitman arm was the lineup with the linkage I’m probably going to end up steering column and just extending the shaft. I have already extended the stage to extend to where the steering column would come down. with no provision for low-voltage from the mag, I have to use gas and kerosene lights. I have an extra Dodge windshield that looks like it will fit the mounting brackets once adapted. I still find myself quite amazed as a technology that is in this running gear. I may be looking for your wisdom as I get closer. THANK YOU, GEORGE. TAKE CARE, DAVID.

The 17 Kelsey prototype is coming together. Running gear is substantially rebuilt and restored, sent the magneto out to be rebuilt. Still have not found someone to restore the carburetor. It appears to be a holly H. Dry fitting the body that came with it which is a aftermarket model T body Made by Kelsey wheels manufacturing company. this is a different Kelsey. Lots of woodwork to be done to restore it. The research in the history that I have been able to do has been fascinating, among other things it has become clear that he used the front end from one of his three wheel Motorettes on this project. Having quite a time trying to figure out the missing linkages for the brakes. Interesting how in this project prototype they used fenders running boards and aprons from some vehicle that I haven’t identified yet. then to make them fit the frame they also cut and stretched to fit the friction running gear. I found no match for the radiator that was used either. Will probably have to make a hood and hood former to match the radiator. Among other things that is interesting on this project prototype from 1917 is that the matching rear fenders, one is steel and one is aluminum. The running boards and aprons were spliced and stretched to fit the space and random roundhead machines screws were used to hold these parts to the frame. Some hex bolts were used but mostly 1/4- 20 very long roundhead machine screws with square nuts. I have found many similarities in the body of the Spartan He started back in 1910 on this car in the fenders. I have still found no examples of either the Kelsey Fricken drive four wheeler or the Spartan to help me.

Yes thank you

The 17 Kelsey prototype is coming together. Running gear is substantially rebuilt and restored, sent the magneto out to be rebuilt. Still have not found someone to restore the carburetor. It appears to be a holly H. Dry fitting the body that came with it which is a aftermarket model T body Made by Kelsey wheels manufacturing company. this is a different Kelsey. Lots of woodwork to be done to restore it. The research in the history that I have been able to do has been fascinating, among other things it has become clear that he used the front end from one of his three wheel Motorettes on this project. Having quite a time trying to figure out the missing linkages for the brakes. Interesting how in this project prototype they used fenders running boards and aprons from some vehicle that I haven’t identified yet. then to make them fit the frame they also cut and stretched to fit the friction running gear. I found no match for the radiator that was used either. Will probably have to make a hood and hood former to match the radiator. Among other things that is interesting on this project prototype from 1917 is that the matching rear fenders, one is steel and one is aluminum. The running boards and aprons were spliced and stretched to fit the space and random roundhead machines screws were used to hold these parts to the frame. Some hex bolts were used but mostly 1/4- 20 very long roundhead machine screws with square nuts. I have found many similarities in the body of the Spartan He started back in 1910 on this car in the fenders. I have still found no examples of either the Kelsey Fricken drive four wheeler or the Spartan to help me.

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Jon, is this carburetor, or something that you could rebuild and restore? this is the only photo I have found of the Spartan David 518-410-2766

Unfortunately, my DU four does not shit between the carburetor and the connection to the cam gear, but thank you

That is very interesting. Thank you.

Thank you I will try that

Thank you, I’m trying to determine the firing order

Thank you. I happen to have a DU4 and DU6, I’ll get them out and see. every photo I have found indicates that the firing order based upon the wire locations is 1423. That doesn’t make sense to me based upon my experience, and the way the crank is built. The glass eye on the magneto has an indicator of 1234 what would be the purpose?

I punched in new way, and there are too many to try to decipher which one refers to the carburetor or the car. Can you be more specific? Thank you, David.

Thank you for the feedback. Again, all the data that I have indicates this is the second prototype before he went into production. If you do a search on the Internet for 1917, Kelsey, you will find this vehicle. You reference the database. Are there any other Kelsey’s or Spartans on your database. to Date I have been unable to find any other four-wheel Kelsey‘s or information on them. The Spartan was Kelsey‘s first four wheel car attempt. I’m looking for information on the Holly H carburetor. do you know any other cars that used this carburetor?

This is the carburetor off of the 1917 Kelsey photo that I am restoring. Does anybody recognize it for the manufacturer? I’m looking for any kind of specifications or information on it. Thank you in advance.

Another interesting tidbit about this prototype Kelsey. Clearly they were using whatever came available to make certain things work. This is the oil filler for the crank case. When I pulled the plug off of it, I realized that it was too small for the funnel, so I removed the entire fitting. Turns out the fitting was developed from the base of a spark plug.

Does anybody know of a copy of this destination regarding MEA magnetos? It appears to be the only information I can find on any literature on these parts.