David Temple

Yes, that is what is meant.

Price dropped to $995 for pair.

I now understand I placed the ad in the wrong section... thought the heading said something like Automobiles and Parts for Sale, but today saw that the forum for cars for sale is broken down into GM, Packard, etc. for sale. No, I didn't get the joke because (1) I put the ad in the wrong section and did not know that until now, and (2) I have not been following the thread on "approved classics" and how they are moving downmarket. (In fact, I have not been reading anything on the AACA forum in a very long time.) Also, I recently looked at ads for cars for sale here and they were not broken down into makes, or in any other way, but rather random (except ordered by date - most recent to oldest). Turns out these ads were under "Not mine" cars for sale and I only discovered this fact just now. So,this is just a case of not seeing how the forum is set up and thus a misplaced ad.

Thanks for the clarification. I misread the heading... thought it said Automobiles and Parts for Sale and did not see the other headings like GM,Packard, etc. for sale until today.

This is AACA - not CCCA. My car meets the 25 years or older qualification of AACA. I do not claim it is a classic. In fact, no generation four Firebird/Formula/Trans Am meets CCCA standards for classic status. There are many fans of these gen-4 cars and my car can serve as a restoration or resto-mod project for someone. It can also serve as a parts car for a gen-4 project. Perhaps this is not the right forum for placing an ad for one of these cars, but I never expected any AACA members would be rude about me listing the car for sale here. I was thinking of renewing my membership in AACA, but based upon the comments here I do not think I should bother.

You are free to dislike 1996 Firebirds. If I could afford to do so, I would restore the car and drive it the rest of my life. It was my first new car and I HATE having to sell it. So, there is at minimum one person who wants it. This car could serve as a restoration project for someone or as a parts car to repair or restore a generation four Formula or Trans Am. There are lots of people who appreciate those cars. This may be the wrong forum to try selling this car, but I thought I would give it a try.

This is AACA... not CCCA... It passes the at-least-25-years-old qualification for AACA. This car is now considered an antique. If the ad did not meet AACA criteria, then it would have been removed by now. The CCCA determines what qualifies as a classic. Generation four Firebirds are not classics. The implication that I am "clueless" is not based upon any facts, but rather your opinion of the car I listed for sale. You have a right to dislike 1996 Firebirds and to even believe I am clueless if you prefer, but you really should have some facts upon which to base an opinion or judgment. I am the author of five books, including "Motorama - GM's Legendary Show Cars" and "The Cars of Harley Earl." Both books won "gold" at the International Automotive Media Competition. My Firebird may be a restoration project for someone or a source of parts for the restoration of a Trans Am or Formula. If I could afford to do so, I would restore the car and drive it the rest of my life. It was my first new car and I HATE having to sell it. Now you can form an opinion based upon some facts.

It wasn't/isn't in Detroit... Longview, Texas (East Texas).

Price reduced.

For Sale: 1996 Pontiac Firebird, 3.8L V-6, 3800 Performance Package, automatic, A/C, P/S, P/B, P/Antenna, red with graphite interior, one Texas owner since new (special order from local dealership), original window sticker, needs engine repair (antifreeze leaks into crankcase - probable intake gasket failure), engine was overhauled 40,000 miles ago, needs paint and right-side rocker panel repair (not rusted but dented), and headliner, 160K miles, $2200, contact David at dtemple105@sbcglobal.net or (903) 753-0555 (leave voice mail and I will return call).

Price reduced to $36,500.

For Sale: 1940 LaSalle Series 52 5-paasenger 4-dr Touring Sedan, style 40-5219, production 10,181 (source, LaSalle - Cadillac's Companion Car by Ron Van Gelderen and Matt Larson), repainted original color in lacquer (paint code, 15 - Beaumont Blue Iridescent, or Pilot Blue Iridescent - same code used for both), original engine, needs reassembly, wire wheels mounted as shown though comes with three original wheels, $4,250, contact Nelson at (903) 237-8098 or email bateselectro@yahoo.com

For Sale: Two sets of front sheet metal for 22nd-23rd Series Packard Henney ambulance/hearse - one with excellent hood but no grille and the other with a grille but no hood. The fenders can be modified to fit a standard 22/23 Series Packard passenger car. $995 for pair. Contact Nelson at (903) 237-8098 or bateselectro@yahoo.com

For Sale: EDIT... SOLD... 1937 Packard 115-C 5-passenger 4-door Touring Sedan, body and interior good, needs work, $6000, contact Nelson at bateselectro@yahoo.com or (903) 237-8098 Also listed for sale on this forum is a 1941 Packard (seen in background of photos)

For Sale: 1941 Packard One-Sixty (exterior trimmed and badged as One-Eighty, but could be returned to One-Sixty trim with reasonable effort) 7-passenger Touring Sedan (body style code 1471), 148-inch wheelbase, formerly owned by the parents of Ricky Nelson, new wiring harness, one owner for past 25 years, $36,500, contact Nelson at bateselectro@yahoo.com or call (903) 237-8098.