[1923 Dodge Bros Roadster dimensions/parts]

1 hour ago, dwollam said:

There is a roadster in California that has a touring cowl and doors (shorter) with a roadster rear section. They slid the body forward to sorta match up to the doors and did a filler plate behind the trunk to hide the gap. Doors are curved different up and down considerably but they made it work. Looks a bit different but it is a running driving car!

 

wow sounds like a lot of work !,,    id be more inclined maybe to re-shape the doors    

 

[1923 Dodge Bros Roadster dimensions/parts]

.. liking the sound of tourer doors at this stage.. also I suspect its a tourer cowl.. 

[1923 Dodge Bros Roadster dimensions/parts]

[1923 Dodge Bros Roadster dimensions/parts]

Just now, dwollam said:

23crate, Are you in New Zealand?

 

 

yes sure am

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great pics  Dwollam   ..   mine didn't come with dash just a hole,,  its good to know difference though !..  lots to work through !

 

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4 minutes ago, nearchoclatetown said:

As Dave said roadster doors are different. I think they are 2 1/4 longer and the back of the cab is wider then touring too.

 

Cool I had read the doors were a different length ,, My 23 Coupe is  around 4 - 5" wider at the top of the rear door... I understand the roadster is 49" at this point ..

 

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14 minutes ago, dwollam said:

23crate, measure the up and down width of the hinge pocket in your cowl to determine if it is a touring or roadster cowl. They are different. I have real roadster doors and also touring doors. All '23 and earlier DB roadster can use the same door. '20-'23 Touring takes a different door and the hinges are different and won't interchange. '14-'19 touring doors are different as well.

 

ok ..here goes...  

 

vertical - height 1 1/2"

width   1 5/8"

depth of pocket  1 1/8"

 

am I right in thinking Roadster doors are 2" longer than Tourer ..   and they so different  Tourer doors  cant be "adjusted " to fit a Roady by a skilled bodyman .. (such as myself :-))

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5 hours ago, DE SOTO said:

 

Thanks DeSoto..

 

existing mounts ' are 3 /12"  long, ID of 7/8"  or  (91mm x 23mm id)

 

thanks

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Dwollam,,

 

definitely round door bottoms on the cowl   hinges are definitely  inside the bodywork ...    just found this post  while searching google  for an example - doors as shown here  

 

https://forums.aaca.org/topic/282477-fs-pre-1923-dodge-brothers-touring-doors/

 

on the passengers side of the firewall  there is a body number stamped  that reads  "577007"

 

a thing I thought odd as well,    was the factory  screen mount support - where screen posts bolt to-  seem to allow a reasonable slope backwards  . I always thought the screen was more-or-less vertical ::

 

any more help to id the cowl would be great !   oh did I mention im looking for screen posts?? 

 

thanks 

Alex

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25 minutes ago, alsfarms said:

Just saying my thoughts, I would also keep an eye out for a donor coupe body and save the leather-back coupe.  I have a very similar body in my back yard, but my leather back coupe has not been cut.  Have you verified the engine number to make sure you have a 1923 and not a 1922?

 are the leatherbacks rare in the US?? 

 

Its my understanding \, that  only 26 of my coupe were imported into New Zealand way back in the 1920's so parts here are very hard to come by.  when i first got it (leatherback) I verified the age via the engine number as being a 23.. the frame was too rusted out to confirm  ( if there is a visible difference between the 2 years . I be happy to say its a 22 --)

a chap I I know offered as much as I paid for the whole thing for the chassis and running gear. 

ive seriously considered rodding this one because unless I can get a tub/trunk from another one  despite my previous career choice as a bodyman  it will never be an original perfect coupe.. 

but having the roadster cowl is an appealing option..

 

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hi everyone ..

 

im looking for a bit of help with my project ..  as the title suggests, 

 

im hoping someone can help me locate a pair of screen posts,    and the 2nd thing im looking for is..  How wide is the body on a roadster at the back of the doors please??

 

all I have is a cowl .. but I do have a rotten old coupe body (with no trunk at all) that may be able to contribute to the roadster project

 

any thing would be great !! 

 

thanks Al