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On 9/12/2018 at 2:03 PM, 1929 pontiac coupe man said:
I have restored these 26 to 32 pontiacs for over 57 years there are a few modifications that have been made from original if you were going to show this car for points you would be dinged about 15 points for alterations in the engine compartment and a few for alterations from the original front seat where is the wood frame as this is a bench seat with pull forward tops not buckets #1 The engine temp gauge is not hooked up to the last head bolt on drivers side next to firewall where it should be the head bolt should have a threaded shaft on top and the temp gauge screws down on it. The horn bracket is not original the horn should be above the engine block to keep the high temp from the horn the horn bracket is also missing the cork insertion gasket to shield the horn from heat i could go on but that would detract from this nice looking car and priced reasonably for what you get too many are over priced there is a justification since people think that just because a car is old it is valuable not true it is what someone is willing to pay due to the cost to replace the wood but that is the way it is you very seldom on these cars ever get back what it cost to do we do it for the love of these work of art that the craftsmanship is lost with time but the 29 true roadster fisher body and then the hollister body ones that have the real value as much as 50 to 75 thousand or more the 32 is the king of value sometimes i have seen all original roadster's nothing touched go for 125 thousand the hollister body the 1929 oakland roadster is the king going for as much as 150 thousand ones are really hard to find and are even harder to find all original there are a few in australia but getting back to this car i think it is priced right for what you get but good inspection will tell the facts such as dry rot around door posts tops and bottom floor joints trunk wood around frame and wheel wheels and how sound the doors when open and closed these are really heavy doors and around the splash aprons for rust and weather does it have the original blossom semi coincidental mechanical ignition lock assembly which locks the transmission in neutral when key is removed and if it still has mechanical breaks or has been upgraded to hydraulics it seem to be accepted in some shows to upgrade the breaks for safety reasons the rule for mechanical is you leave a lot of distances between cars especially when they get wet i never drive mine when raining for that reason i would not want to damage my 29 holister body roadster
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Just re-read your post and left out a salient piece of information in my post. On the Pontiac Oakland version, the cable runs from the switch on the dash down through the floor and into the top of the transmission. When the key is engaged and the switch is thrown it unlocks the transmission, otherwise it is locked in neutral and cannot be shifted. That is a little different from what you described on yours - same idea. The paragraph that describes this thing - with pictures - is on pp 50 of the manual I mentioned. I can send you pictures of those as well.
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Mike,
I have a 1929 Pontiac Coupe with the Blossom Semi-Coincidental Lock on it. I also am looking for reference material on this thing - mine is missing the key and the plate that houses the switch on the front. There is a reference to it in the 29-29 Oakland Pontiac Service Manual, including some blurry pics. I did find a copy of the patent and printed it - if nothing else it may be helpful in trying to get a key made for mine.
I saw a post on this forum a few days ago posted by a gent that goes by the handle " '29 Pontiac Coupe Man" dated 2021. I am actively trying to locate him - his post illustrated a working knowledge of this thing. I wrote to AACA but they couldn't help me. So I went back on line to find it again in hopes of posting a response to him and making contact with him. Perhaps some other reader of this forum will recognize his handle and let him know we are looking for him. Sure hope so - this is just one of MANY issues I have with this ole car.
The patent number for the Blossom Semi Concidental Lock is 1,871,905 dated August16, 1932. It was assigned to Delco-Remy by the inventor Harry E. Norviel in Anderson Indiana. Hope that helps. I can send a copy of the patent if you cannot locate. Text me at 941-928-4141
Bill Hutchison
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Last time I posted a question as a new member I did not know what to expect in response. I belong to many forums -- some are responsive some not so much. You guys have been phenomenal. Great, great help with my questions and knowledge gaps. So I thought I would try again with some missing parts.
I have a 36 sedan 40 series and need a Harrison heater/controls and I need a hood ornament. These are darn near the only two things missing/wrong on my car ( I should say "so far") Any Buick guys out there have extras or know where I can find these? Internet searches have come up empty so far and I am guessing the hood ornament might be "precious" based on the little info I could find
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Wow nice pic thank you. My numbers are obliterated by the puncture for the hose fitting — they couldn’t have put it in a place to take out more data than they did. Do you or anyone else have any ideas about how I may recreate or discover what my numbers should were? I can deduce my trim paint and body style but how would I figure out the body number? Seems like that would be the most important of all. I have found a source for repop tag and rivets but I gotta tell him what to put on it. The only date reference I have is the original title and purchase date by the original owner from the dealer. Any way to deduce body number?
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On 4/30/2018 at 10:20 PM, 50jetback said:
PHILCO produced universal radios for installation in motor vehicles. While looking for a radio to fit my 1936 Century I came across a mounting kit manufactured by CROWE RADIO COMPONENTS from Chicago. The kit is specifically produced to enable a 1936 PHILCO Universal model radio ( I think model 817 or 818 ) control head in the correct position on the dash and included quality componentry and beautifully finished facia panel which matches the factory dash.
Stuart thank you for the reply. Is this something you think would work with the head I posted pictures of, and is it something you could bear to part with if so??
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9 hours ago, Seldenguy said:
There were two (2) radios available for the 1936 Buick. The one you show above is the deluxe model of the two. The standard lower level is vertical with no overlapping of trim panel and completely differently from the deluxe. Both are shown in the 1936 accessory catalog, which also shows the standard and deluxe hot water heaters.
Normally when i start a project like this I acquire all the shop manuals brochures etc but you guys are so helpful and responsive I havent had a chance to do that yet. I was afraid there would be info scarcity but you guys are sure dispelling that concern. Thank you soo much
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While I was out there I took pictures of a Philco radio and controls that came in a box in the trunk. No idea if its right or wrong for this car but the controls have a keyed lock and key. There is also a knob just below the speaker What's that key all about?
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Here is the heater installed currently. There is no label, just the emblem shown. Looks a lot like yours. Do you recognize it?
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36 minutes ago, rlcokc said:
reproduction data tag is available. I purchased one years ago and it was very well made. the first 36 model 40 I purchased also had later series heater with hole in approximately same position as yours. My heater was from a 1937 Buick.
Rod
Rod I checked out the site. These guys are great. Heckuva lot easier than firing up the Bridgeport thanks for your recommendation I sent them an email with the pics. Do you recall how much they asked?
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12 minutes ago, Hutchhouse said:
Well, as a matter of fact I do have a Bridgeport 3 axis with NC controls and I have a press. Skill to do that is a different story. That would be mighty tedious. I’ll try first to find replacement tag but if not your idea may get a try. Thanks!!
I have Inkscape. It outputs g code that my machine understands. I also have Millpower by Accurite and my thought was to engrave everything in reverse , using same procedure you described. Then emboss aluminum from backside. Seems like engraving might b a whole lot easier than carving out the characters. And this way the die could also be aluminum. What do you think?
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25 minutes ago, Spinneyhill said:
Reproducing those body tags looks like a fun job if you have a CNC milling machine and a press. My thoughts are to prepare the artwork then use the CNC mill to cut away the low areas between the characters into a piece of thick plate. Then with your press and a blob of hard urethane under the piece of aluminium, press the plate into the aluminium. Done!
I think it might be a lot faster to say it than to do it!
Well, as a matter of fact I do have a Bridgeport 3 axis with NC controls and I have a press. Skill to do that is a different story. That would be mighty tedious. I’ll try first to find replacement tag but if not your idea may get a try. Thanks!!
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26 minutes ago, pont35cpe said:
I have a Harrison heater that came with my `36 Buick coupe, which must have been for a Chevy(had Chevrolet on the heater door pulls which I belt sanded smooth) but it fit the exact knock-out holes in the firewall that was for the Buick heater, even my new firewall pad has matching holes..
That makes sense. I got quite a few parts — original newly chromed front bumper, bumper Etter, headlight glass, new hubcaps, a few engine parts, — with the car. I will research tomorrow and let you know — and thanks for all the help much appreciated
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5 hours ago, pont35cpe said:
Hutch, actually you have the "small" Buick for `36, the 40 series with the small 233cu in engine. The 3 larger series have a 320cu in engine and longer wheelbases..
Since you are a Pontiac guy I thought you might like to see my 29 coupe -- hope the Buick guys don't mind just this once !!
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2 hours ago, pont35cpe said:
One easy way is to measure the wheelbase(center of front wheel to center of rear wheel. 40 series 118", 60 series 122", 80 series 131", and 90 series 138".. All series use the same front grille, the larger series has a longer hood than the 40 series, each series has different length running boards, all use the same hub-caps but large series wheels(rims) are different size from the 40 series, and I think the dash and insturments are the same, some speedometers go up to 110mph, I think the 40 series is 100mph. Large series interior door handles and window cranks are a little different in detail than the 40 series. Tail lights are the same except the lens is different on the larger series. Also the cowel tag will state which series and model. I think I`m correct on these statements, if not, someone will correct me..
I measured it -- its 118" But now the bad news and this will make you sick -- made me . Look what someone has done to the data tag on the firewall. I noted when I bought it that it had the original heater in a box and someone had mounted what looked like a period correct but different heater under the dash. Somehow I missed this atrocity. Look at the tag -- can you imagine how pristine it was before some idiot drilled the hole in it? So far its the only heartbreak with the car Everything else seems perfect -- but I'm still sick.
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Thank you for the knowledge!! How does one tell the different series apart?? What are the “tells” on my car?
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On 4/27/2018 at 2:13 PM, Mark Shaw said:
Bill,
Your car might be a good candidate to be an "Archival Car".
UNRESTORED VEHICLE CLASS
The BCA recognizes and encourages the preservation of fine examples of unrestored Buicks. Once restored or replaced, the archival value of original features and materials is forever lost. Unrestored cars therefore provide an invaluable treasure and actual examples of Buick production. The BCA also encourages the display of these original vehicles as an accessible resource for restorers. To that end, the BCA has established a certification, and award program for Archival vehicles more than 25 model years old entered in National Meets. (From the BCA Judging Manual)
The car is certainly complete and original but the front seat upholstery is rough -- really rough. I am torn between directions to go with it but it is a future project so there is time to figure it out. It came with the original title from the original owner. I will get a copy of that manual and evaluate it in that light. Thank you for the suggestion.
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33 minutes ago, Mark Shaw said:
Bill,
Welcome, and congratulations on acquiring such an original car. Where are you located?
I am in Sarasota Florida. Yes it is original -- not my usual project where I spend half my life chasing parts!! It even came with original grille, new chromed bumpers and bumperettes, decals, repop hubcaps but the original ones are NICE just not shiney, Thanks
Bill
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On 4/26/2018 at 8:51 AM, pont35cpe said:
Bill, welcome. What series? Not sure what you mean exactly on weatherstrip, bushings(?).. Steele Rubber is a source for weatherstripping, vent window seals, window channeling and such. `36 is a year of its own, very few if any other year parts fit `36 and are kinda hard to find. Dave Tacheny is a good source for used parts 763 427 3460 5-7pm central time M-F. Is yours a solid car or rotted wood? Post some pictures, we like pictures. What kind of Pontiacs? I`m a `35 Pontiac kinda guy myself. If you`d like a good read on a `37 Buick restoration go to Pre-War section, Gary W (1937 Buick Model 48: Restoration Has Begun!) His story is on pg2 at this time. Tom
Thank you for your response. My car is virtually 100% complete. It has an aluminum repop grille on it but a near perfect original came with the car. Nice to meet another Pontiac guy. I have an original running/driving 29 coupe and a total basket job 30 coupe for future. Finished total resto 67 Firebird this year for youngest grandson.
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On 4/26/2018 at 8:58 AM, MCHinson said:
Hutchhouse,
Welcome to the AACA Discussion Forum. I have moved your post to the Pre-War Buick Forum. You will find lots of help here. I would also encourage you to consider joining the 36-38 Buick Club. In addition to the great help you will find on this forum, the Club has technical advisors who you would find very helpful. You can check out that club at this link: http://www.3638buickclub.org/. If you would be interested, I will be happy to send you a pdf sample of the club's most recent newsletter.
Thank you -- I downloaded membership app and am getting a check off today
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13 hours ago, 1939_Buick said:
Link to Bob's
Thank you -- great resource!!
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11 hours ago, groselle said:
Welcome Bill. I have a 36 Special 4 Dr that I'm in the process of restoring. I have always had good luck with Bob's Automobilia. I have a somewhat up to date blog on my efforts. The link is in my signature. Happy to answer any questions
Greg
Thank you. Yes I found Bob's and its a great resource. They have things the one other one I found do not. Greg send me your email. I will have a million stupid questions. Mine is hutchhouse1@hotmail.com
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23 hours ago, pont35cpe said:
Bill, welcome. What series? Not sure what you mean exactly on weatherstrip, bushings(?).. Steele Rubber is a source for weatherstripping, vent window seals, window channeling and such. `36 is a year of its own, very few if any other year parts fit `36 and are kinda hard to find. Dave Tacheny is a good source for used parts 763 427 3460 5-7pm central time M-F. Is yours a solid car or rotted wood? Post some pictures, we like pictures. What kind of Pontiacs? I`m a `35 Pontiac kinda guy myself. If you`d like a good read on a `37 Buick restoration go to Pre-War section, Gary W (1937 Buick Model 48: Restoration Has Begun!) His story is on pg2 at this time. Tom
I am not sure how to tell what series I have. I took a bunch of pix yesterday and have tried to upload. I have the original title from when it was purchased new but there is no mention of any characteristics other than 4D Sedan The grille and trunk emblems indicate its an 8 of course, and I can say its a HUGE car. All the tools are in the trunk, original spare, original interior, wood is absolutely solid, original paint, minor dings, running boards solid. What is it can anyone say?
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Hello.
New member. Just acquired '36 four-door sedan. Looking for repro source for weatherstrip, bushings, etc. Google didn’t produce many hits for pre-war. Any recommendations?
I’m a Pontiac guy; this is my first Buick and I love this ole car.
Bill
hutchhouse1@hotmail.com
1929 Pontiac 6-29 Two-Door Sedan *SOLD*
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Hello. I saw your posts a few weeks ago - even though the last one was 2021 - and have been trying to find you ever since. I have a '29 coupe and a million questions and from what I have read in your posts you have the answers. How can I get in touch with you, or if anyone reading this and knows 29 Pontiac Coupe Man I would be so appreciative if you can hook us together. Text me 941-928-4141 Bill Hutchison