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Could it be from a Case tractor?
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That same car is listed at the Hemmings site, and at a dealer located Glendate, CA.
Link: https://www.vintagecarcollector.com/vehicles/2148/1928-studebaker-regal-commander
Wonder where it is and is it being flipped or what's up.
Correction the dealer is in Glendale the car is in Fort Wayne, IN
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My connection to this car is I'm the head of the Gardner Car Club and 8 years ago I saw it. If you're the next owner please register at my website gardnermotorcars.com
I'll add to his description - A 1926 6A six cylinder Lycoming 2S engine. One of the selling points was four-wheel enclosed brakes, rare for a car built in late 1925. New this was priced at $1,595 FOB St. Louis. l found the car very complete and almost an HPOF car. My guess is that it had a repaint many years ago. Based on my photos and the ones in his ad I don't think it has been driven in years but that's another guess. I hope it finds a good home.
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St. Paul - Capitol City Chapter/Minnesota Region
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Past National President David K. Strong passed away on Sunday, November 5, 2023.
He was the AACA National President in 1986 and was a member of the Minnesota
Region, having joined the Region in 1949.
His memorial service will be on Saturday, November 25, 2023 at the Thief River Falls United
Methodist Church, 116 Horace Avenue N., Thief River Falls, MN. Visitation is from 1 -2 PM,
service to follow at 2 PM.
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Great kbeach.
I wrote an article about FEDCO for the Gardner Club Newsletter. It includes what was written about FEDCO in 1927.
It's a bit long, but if you're not finding your serial number it's the right length.
Over the years I have met car owners that were convinced their car did not have a serial number. The data plate on the engine listed the Lycoming Motor No. and the Car No. was, as usual, left blank. As of Dec 1, 1926 with the introduction of the 1927 2nd Series Gardner, the Car No. was also on the dashboard.What is FEDCO?A serial number plate, made in such a way that it can not be changed or removed without detection. Made of nickel and copper and attached in a way that any attempt to remove it will result in its defacement. Any attempt to alter its figures will also result in defacement.FEDCO (Federated Engineers Development Corp) gave examples to the National Automobile Chamber of Commerce and the National Automobile Dealers’ Association who made attempts to determine if its purpose could be defeated and failed in every instance. It was said it was more difficult to counterfeit than money.Who used FEDCO?Chrysler was first with the 1926 models in mid-1925. By Jan 1927 Duesenberg, Elcar, Gardner, Jordan, Marmon, Stutz, Rickenbacker also used FEDCO.FEDCO & GardnerThe 1927 2nd Series models 80 and 90 used FEDCO the 6B did not. Thereafter all Gardner cars had the FEDC0 number. The 6B was discontinued about mid-January, and that may be part of the reason for the exclusion. The horizontal plate on the right side of the cluster had a bronze color. On the plate the name GARDNER was overlaid with the smaller serial numbers and can be difficult to read today. However, above and below the overlay the serial number was listed and easy to read.The 1928 2nd Series models 85 and 95 had a vertical FEDCO number, the model 75 continued with the horizontal number. Today there is no known translation table for the serial number letters and Gardner used more than 10 letter to represent digits; making it almost impossible to crack the code.In 1927 there was a $2 charge for FEDCO and this was later increased to $5. A smart investment as the car was less likely to be stolen. If it was stolen FEDCO gave the owner $5.00 per day up to 30 days or until it was recovered.WarningDo not try to remove it, just clean it gently and tell your restorer to use extreme caution in a restoration. The easiest way to read the number is to take a digital photo and enlarge the image.-
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There will be shuttle buses. There is information in the meet brochure. See the "brochure" link under the Hershey Meet heading.
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What car was this used for?
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Got this ready to post then noticed it's 1 inch too short. Not mine, this was in the Region newsletter.
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You could contact the Chief Judge, Fred Bartemeyer. His contact info is on the brochure.
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It is a 1926 Gardner 8A roadster. Lt Moynahan was test driving a new Chrysler doing 85mph when a Gardner roadster passed them like "we were chained to a fence post". That worked for the dealer and he sold 6 roadsters to CHPS. The double door deck lid, splash aprons and other body parts identify it.
If that's a family photo send me a PM I think I can find an article that lists the names of most of the officers that bought one.
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keiser31 is right again.
1926 Gardner 8. WFD Williamsport Fire Department where the Lycoming engine was made.
Note the exposed oak bow for the top. I believe Gardner was the first to do that in Aug 1925. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong. -
The AACA Library has one in their collection. You can call them at 717-534-2082 and
they can provide you with a copy or email Amoi Goldman at agoldman@aaca.org.
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I got my letters around December 10th for Master Editor. Maybe check with Pat Buckley at National.
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They can copy this item for you. Your best bet is to call the Library directly at 717-534-2082.
You can also email Matt Hocker at mhocker@aaca.org.
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The yard sale hours are 4 - 7 PM on Tuesday, volunteers are requested to be there around 3.
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Crank hole covers don't come up often; I thought I'd share one you've never seen.
I think I know what it was on.
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This lens was not used on the 1920-1925 4 cyl models.
It was used in 1925 & 1926
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Your book does not list an 8-80 collapsible coupe but they were available in June of 1927. Today most in the hobby call them a convertible coupe or cabriolet just as alsfarms said. New it was $3,000 FOB, not the most expensive Locomobile, but a lot in 1927. The HDL engine was 298.6 CID same as the Lycoming 4H, 4HM, HD and MD engines. I would start by going to this link and print out the Lycoming H series book, about 28 pages and the MD pamphlet.
http://gardnermotorcars.com/engines.html
You asked about the linkage for the carb. It appears you have the original Schebler and the linkage went on both sides of the carb. Engine side gas pedal, hood side steering column. The attached pictures are for a Gardner GS engine with a Schebler. On my car the center rod through the steering column was used for the throttle. I can get better photos if needed.
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I should be able to help, we have family in PA and will stay a few days beyond the Hershey show.
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On 5/25/2022 at 9:01 AM, Matt Harwood said:
I think if you just painted the window openings it would look a lot less clownish.
I agree with Matt that might be all that is needed. I found a period image of the convertible sedan with the same two color hood, I don't know if the sedan came that way.
Photo Shop version
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On 5/5/2022 at 9:59 AM, dibarlaw said:
Sure, looks like Jackie Coogan to me
Yup Jackie Coogan. From that angle the car is difficult to identify - 1928 Gardner Model 95
Jackie bought at least 4 Gardners and said he wanted to sell cars when he became of age. His dad, the driver liked the Gardner over the Rolls Royce. I'm a big Gardner fan but don't know I'd make the same choice.
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Down load link: https://books.google.com/books/download/The_Motor_Camping_Book.pdf?id=OCg4AQAAMAAJ&output=pdf&sig=ACfU3U3tjUvchva8sWxw-cp2N5vgsHBagQ
If that doesn't work try this (Firefox screen)
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1922 Davis
in "Not Mine" Automobiles For Sale
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If the missing trunk was on the car I think it would look a lot better, it came with the trunk rack but I'll guess the trunk was an option. Not a bad looking car for 1922 steel wheels and suicide doors. More photos at