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    Judging HPOF Original

    in AACA - Class Judging

    Posted · Edited by Attitude928 (see edit history)

    I have a 1909 Oakland 20B that had one paint job in the 50s. The rest is original, but the leather is ripped on the front seat and some of the inside material is now coming out. Is there an acceptable repair to keep the car HPOF? I want to be able to tour the car without destroying the seat. The attached pic is from when the car was on exhibit at the Hershey museum. Thanks! Jordan

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    Nice 9b auctioned off yesterday

    in Franklin

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    If I want to go fast I can always race iceboats or drive my Khamsin, Turbo R or WRX...not a Model T nor any of my old cars.

    I never expect to buy cars as an investment...just having fun sorting and driving 'em and learning about automotive history. I never want the car to strangle me with onerous price or restoration costs. So if I walk out with a relatively unique car at a low price...I've gotten a nice car. If they perform well...then even better.

    I recently refreshed a 1927 Gardner Imperial Sedan (one of three known) and will be happy to drive the 298.6ci 8 cylinder and to participate in Gardner Club events.

    Here's a 1932 Franklin on ebay that I wouldn't mess with: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Packard-153-DELUXE-ROADSTER-Deluxe-Convertible-Roadster-/121816022473?forcerrptr=true&hash=item1c5cccfdc9:g:aGkAAOSwIwhWSTAy&item=121816022473

    Nice 9b auctioned off yesterday

    in Franklin

    Posted · Edited by Attitude928 (see edit history)

    It's a CCCA approved classic that had a relatively high sticker price in 1920 ($3750). It has a relatively low rated 199ci engine of 25.3, but at least the sedan is light weight (2755lbs) and nimble.  I think the bid price is a good deal but the buyer's premium makes it less of a bargain.  Every  car that I bought 10-15 years ago for $9,000-$10,000 is now $15,000 ('62 Mini, '71 Lotus Elan +2S, '73 TVR 2500M, '80 Vette, etc.).  So like I said: a nice car for $13,500 without buyer's fees.  The prices of Brass & Nickel have also risen in the past 5 years.  It is very possible that car prices will fall back once the stock market bull market ends...

    F/S 1920 Gardner

    in Automobiles and Parts - Buy/Sell

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    I recently purchased a 1927 Gardner Imperial Sedan that has been refreshed and should be ready for show and the road within the month.  I found out about the car through the Gardner web site, which is a great site. The fellow who is refreshing the car did the original restoration.  I attached a pic from when I purchased the car and a group of photos from the original restoration. The director of the website/Gardner Club (Bob) found the original restorer, later met me at his shop and even brought along 1927 Gardner headlights and the appropriate Gardner Griffon mascot (among other goodies).  Bob's a great guy who has been invaluable to this process and the marque as a whole. 

     

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    1909 Oakland 20B

    in Pontiac & Oakland

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    My 1909 2 cylinder Oakland 20B pulled one of the two spots on the red carpet and 1st in the Brass Car Division at the 11th Annual Americana Manhasset Concours D'Elegance today.  It's one of two known and has the counterclockwise Alanson Brush engine with the fan-top cylinder heads.  Wheels have 12 spokes and WB is 100".  Car is being sorted for touring next year.

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    Pics from Third Annual Oakland Gathering in Chesapeake, VA

    in Pontiac & Oakland

    Posted · Edited by Attitude928 (see edit history)

    We were shown a lot of Southern hospitality during our travels through Virginia and North Carolina. It was a very friendly group, who were very knowledgeable about the cars. Three Oakland mechanics were present. They had a lot of experience with the Oakland engines (8 cylinder, 6, 4 & 2) and repairing Oaklands in general. One of them had a stockpile of old Oakland parts. They are located in PA, DE & MD, which is close to my base in NY/NJ. My mechanic (who came along) was in seventh heaven learning about the old Oaklands from these guys. Here are some Oakland & Pontiac pics from Bob shop:post-145576-0-29063300-1431946587_thumb.post-145576-0-42708400-1431946621_thumb.post-145576-0-92868100-1431946729_thumb.post-145576-0-71651900-1431946759_thumb.post-145576-0-36680400-1431946795_thumb.

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    New addition to my collection: 1909 Oakland 20B

    in HCCA General Discussion

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    Thanks for your input. I'll post a picture of the 2 cylinder engine soon.

    It looks like Brush's 1 cylinder engine was rejected by Oldsmobile, but then utilized by Cadillac. By that time, he was Cadillac's chief engineer. Please see: http://www.hemmings.com/hcc/stories/2006/04/01/hmn_feature19.html

    Brush teamed up with Murphy to found Oakland in the Summer of 1907. By then Cadillac had rejected Brush's 2 cylinder engine. The engine was used in the 1908 & 1909 Oakland 20B (before he left Brush Motor Car Company). John Gunnell's book, "75 years of Pontiac & Oakland" suggests that the 2 cylinder engine was designed in 1906. Production of the 2 cylinder engine car commenced in late 1907. The first owner (serial number 1) took possession in April 1908. I suspect that the same engine was used for the Brush Company prototypes. I'm unclear of the timing of these Brush Motor Car Co. prototypes...but I hope I find one.

    Please also see: http://oaklandowners.com/oakland-history/

    Jordan Glaser

    New addition to my collection: 1909 Oakland 20B

    in HCCA General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Attitude928 (see edit history)

    1909 Oakland 20B Touring, which is the oldest Oakland model. One of two known in existence. Two cylinder, 152ci, 20HP, 112WB. Never had a top or windshield. Known ownership history back to 1909. Counterclockwise engine designed by Alanson Brush to prevent injury to right wrist and thumb. Engine rejected by Cadillac. Brush liked his cars light & zippy.

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    Please introduce yourself...

    in Buick - Introduce Yourself

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    Hi My name is Jordan. I have a bunch of old & newer cars. Am in the process of acquiring a 1909 2 cylinder Oakland 20B Touring. Also have a 1925 Franklin 11A Sedan and a 1927 Gardner 1st Series 8B Imperial Sedan. Then the collection jumps in years to a 1962 Morris Mini that had its engine swapped out in John Cooper's shop in the 60's.

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