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    Parts wanted for Hupmobile

    in Hupmobile

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    Hi Steve and Jeff, 

    I have placed inquiries in both The Hup Club and the Australia & New Zealand Club, and Hupmobile, Hupp cars and parts for sale on Facebook market place groups.

    Steve, years ago I use to own a 1929 Studebaker President sedan. I had a very bad accident and could not drive the car due to collateral damage. I sold the car and had a ton of parts. I met a person in Australia off of the HCCA who was looking for a Studebaker wire wheel. Long story short, I supplied him with a lot of parts and became a pretty good shipper of overseas parts. I will give my inquire several days to see if anyone could help me. If not, I would like to work with you on shipping the engine valves and parts to me. Thank you for the offer. Paul

     

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    Parts wanted for Hupmobile

    in Hupmobile

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    Newbie on parts and part numbers

     I need an intake and an exhaust valve, and a horse shoe valve keeper for my 1924 Hup series R-13.

     Page 54, figure 59 shows several part numbers and arrows pointing to an item.

    So, how do I approach the “what I needs department” by giving a description of what I need as above, or try to use the part numbers as a reference?

    Will other year car valves work on my 1924? Thanks

     

    1924 Hupmobile model r-13 generator removal

    in Technical

    Posted

    Hi Fordy.

    I have the generator at the repair shop. Part of the generator was broken where the generator can be moved to adjust the belt tension. As you may guess, I firmly believe in punch marks and a white paint stick. I have been thinking and would like to purchase the generator brushes from you. Please let me know how to place an order with you. Thanks Paul

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    1924 Hupmobile model r-13 generator removal

    in Technical

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    Hi Fordy, 

    First off, I want to thank you for your suggestions on how to remove the generator. I followed your advice and used very thin Christmas wreath wire to weave in-between the timing chain belt and secured it to the bolt holes that helped to secure the timing chain cover. I did this procedure with two bolt holes and took a dowl and cut each end to fit into the crankshaft and camshaft gears so that nothing would move or fall. It worked as the timing chain is still secure.

    You are correct, I need a replacement generator cut out and not a voltage regulator. The model a ford generator cut out is a good suggestion as I really would not know what to replace it with.  Also, I have had experience adjusting the third brush on other cars. What would you suggest as a good amperage for the generator?

    Both the starter and generator are on their way to a repair shop soon. thanks Paul

    three ingnition parts dealers for a 1920's era Westinghouse JN distributor

    in Technical

    Posted

    I have been able to purchase ignition parts for a Westinghouse distributor from these vendors.

     

    Antique Ignition Vendors

     

    1)      special-interest-autos.com

    Special Interest Autos
    Ignition - Generating - Starting - Lighting

    Supplier of antique electrical parts and service for most makes of
      AUTO / TRUCK / MARINE / AGRICULTURAL / INDUSTRIAL
    1910's - 1970's.
    Over 12,000 part numbers in stock!!!

    Call, fax, or email us with your inquires or orders!

    Phone/Fax: 1-800-634-2469 (US only)
    972-722-4079 (International)

    VISA * MASTERCARD * AMERICAN EXPRESS * DISCOVER
     

    2)      www.then-now-auto.com.

     

    • Contact Us!

    Then & Now Automotive
    447 Washington St
    Weymouth, Ma 02188
    Ph: 781.335.8860
    Fax: 781.335.1925

     

    3)     Tom VanMeeteren

    NOS Early Ignition

    1900-1960

    (402)-359-5762

    tsvanmeet@gmail.com.

     

    I have used all three vendors.

    I will suggest when buying a rotor for the Westinghouse distributor from Ebay or at a swap meet, some other source to look at the rotor housing and make sure that the rotor flat tab is not worn out. It could strip out overtime.

    Also, to really clean the distributor shaft where rotor fits to make sure the rotor is completely seated.

    Paul

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    1924 Hupmobile Gas tank and Gauge Reproduction Parts

    in Technical

    Posted

    I recently have been searching for a replacement gasoline tank for my 1924 Hupmobile, model R-13. The original tank was damaged and made of such thin sheet metal that it could not be repaired.

    I have a 1926 Chevrolet touring car and I remembered that the gas tank was a similar design to the Hupmobile.

    I ordered the tank and was completely surprised that the tank was a similar design and set up for a Stewarts Vacume fuel system. The new tank came with a new gas filler and cap as well as connections for the fuel delivery system.

    The sheet metal mechanic and I looked at the original fuel filler and gas gauge sending unit. The material to make up these parts was thicker than the tank and the mechanic felt that he could cut these parts off the tank and reuse them.

    I bought the tank off Ebay.com.

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    US $344.95

    This is the company that makes the tanks.

    https://www.tanksinc.com.

    1928-54 Chevy Fuel Tanks

    I did purchase a reproduction gas gauge from Steve Ford in the

    Hupmobile Register - Australia & NZ

    This is our website.

    http://huppregister.com.

    The 1923-25 Hupmobile R fuel gauge project is now at the stage where they are ready to ship to those who want one. Just need to box them up.

    Cost in Australian $ is $390 shipped to continental US or Europe.

    Todays exchange rate is 1A$ = 0.66 US$

    I also have a full range of parts available to suit that will interchange with original units. PM if you are interested.

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    1924 Hupmobile Westinghouse distributor JN information

    in Technical

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    Westinghouse Distributor dilemma.

    What does the word “type” and “style” mean in the automobile world of antique car parts?

    I have been working on a 1925 Gardner with a 4-cylinder Lycoming engine.

    Also, I have a 1924 Hupmobile model R-13 that has the engine built by Hupmobile.

    Both engines use the Westinghouse distributor type JN.

    I got a surprise after removing the Hupmobile JN distributor to find that the distributor shaft is a different size from the one used on the Lycoming engine.

    Both JN distributors take the same points, condensers, and rotors.

    The word “type” is used to express how the part was made by engine specification.

    The Lycoming Westinghouse Distributor is painted red in the photos. The type number for the Lycoming engine is 366180.

    The Hupmobile Westinghouse distributor is not painted and its type number is 366180.

    The word “Style” is a specific manufacturing number application based upon the engine manufacturer requirements as best I can determine what “style” means.

    The Hupmobile style number is 395209.

    The Lycoming engine style number is 366180.

    I guess the moral of the story is when dealing with Westinghouse parts make sure that the style numbers match when poking around at Hershey or any other parts swap meet.

    Also, some information from Ross Ansell

    From: Ross Ansell [mailto:hupp26@icloud.com]
    Sent: Monday, November 13, 2023 11:11 PM
    To: Brian Spear
    Subject: Re: Model R

     There is little available here on R distributors, as we did not get a dissy until the E. There are a few odd bods apparently.

    All I could find was .002” to .003” side play on the shaft and no more than .005” to.006” vertical movement. A 20oz weight on the contact spring should just open the gap, a 17oz weight should not.   Point gap should be .013” to .016”, plugs .020” to .022” 

    Regards,

    Paul

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    1931 Hupp transmission. Who built it?

    in Hupmobile

    Posted

    I am a beginning novice on Hupmobiles and am referring you to Brian Spear. He is the president of the national club. You need to join the club where you can get technical help. Please let me know what you find out on the transmission.

     

    Brian's email address is :

    bcckspear@comcast.net.

    Have fun-Paul

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    front bumper badge

    in Hupmobile

    Posted

    I noticed that the front bumper had some type of badge and it is  missing. I do not know what it looks like and would like to purchase one  if a member has one for sale. A photo of the badge would help  me identify what I am looking for in my search

    My car is a 1924 Hupmobile, model R-13, tourng car. 

    Any help would be appreciated especially a photo.

    Thanks for your help

    gas tank fuel discharge placement and Water Wetter

    in Hupmobile

    Posted

    I have two separate questions. I am wondering why the fuel discharge tube to the carburetor is about 4 inches from the bottom of the fuel tank. Is this due to the Stewart’s Vacuume Tank operation or just simply a design by Chevrolet?

    I have dealt with gravity feed tanks where the fuel discharge is at the bottom of the tank. Would someone help explain this set up?

    Secondly, has anyone used Water Wetter in their radiators and how has it performed. I recently had a new core replacement in my 26 chevy touring car.  I noticed the water was not clear and am running a radiator cleaner to help get rid of the residue.

    I am thinking of using Water Wetter to help keep the engine cooler for a long tour.

    I would appreciate feedback on the Water Wetter or other additives to help keep the engine cool.

    Thank you for your help.

    WTB Stomberg updraft OX-2 and Westinghouse model JN distributor

    in Automobiles and Parts - Buy/Sell

    Posted

    I have just aquired a barn fresh 1924 Hupmobile model R.

    I am looking for a parts carb or restored one to purchase, as well as a recommendation who may offer repair kits for sale.

    I have noticed on EBay that there are many carbs with the initial "0" as the begining letter in the model number.

    Does this mean that the "O" group carbs may be interchangeable with each other, if the carbs look the same?

     

    Also, I am looking for a Westingouse JN, 4 cylinder rebuilt distributor, or a parts distributor for sale.

    Any help would be appreciated

    Thanks 

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    Westinghouse distributor and other

    in Parts Wanted

    Posted

    Hello Oldsoul58,

    I am working on a 1924 hupmobile and did not know the Westinghouse distributors were interchangable. Do you have thet hupmobile distributor for sale?

    I will look into the Massey Ferguson distributor as well.

    Do you know what model jeep distributor will fit.

    I found a 4 cylinder Westinghouse on ebay that I was able to salvage to make  a good distributor. 

    I came across the hupmobile recently and it is a barn find that I can not wait to start on this month.

    You appear to have a lot of experience on old cars, especially to come up with other distributors.

    Thank you for your h elp

    Paul

    1927 chevy truck ignition switch issue

    in Technical

    Posted

    I wanted to let everyone know that Jarvis Erickson finally contacted me. He was busy home issues and did not respond to me earlier. I had sent him a letter as well and he called me when he recieved it.

    Jarvis is in his 80's and has found a dramatic drop in demand for his services. He has many repair and rebuilt parts in stock. 

    He is quite an authority of the Mercury speedster and has one himself. He owns one himself and has been asked to attend an upcoming speedster event.

    I feel the best method to contact him is both by telephone and letter.

    I did try to contact Jesser's a couple of times and no response.

    Jarvis is a cool dude at his age! 

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