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On 8/22/2022 at 3:32 AM, The Custodian said:
Hello, I seek help on the formulation of the correct Skyline Blue color for '46 Continental.
I understand there were two versions, dark & light, metallic and non metallic with different codes.
Will someone please help with more information and images of the above ?
Regards,
Dev
Thanks to all members for their time, I found the correct Skyline Blue metallic color #M14138.
Dev
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On 8/28/2022 at 12:02 PM, The Custodian said:
Esteemed members,
Does any of you know the gent with the login name '39 Pick up' ?
If so, please DM the email / contact info.
He is the only bet in my endeavour to find the correct Skyline Blue color.
Please help.
Dev
I found the Skyline Blue #M14138 formulation.
Thanks to all members for their time and help.
Dev
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I wish to thank all the members for their kind guidance in restoring the car authentically.
I received the authenticity manual and will follow the same.
In case of doubt ,I shall seek your help again.
With warm regards,
Dev
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9 hours ago, Przemek M said:
This information comes from Authenticity Manual for 40-48 Lincoln Continental by LC owners club. I have hard copy of this document. I can make scan for you.
Przemek M.
Hi, I have ordered a copy of the same but haven't received for last 3 weeks.
I will appreciate if you can check on the above queries. I will be painting the car tomorrow hence the rush.
Please do guide me on the color of the bonnet hinges.
Dev
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3 hours ago, Przemek M said:
Maybe it will help.
Many thanks for the help, this information is crucial.
Are there any details about the pedals, handbrake lever and the splash shields?
Please help as it's extremely urgent.
Regards,
Dev
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What color will the following be,
Steering rack cover tube,
The bonnet hinges and springs,
The Brake and clutch padels.
The oil filter will be black ?
There are two fender splash shields. Will those be black or body color.
Please advise.
Dev
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On 9/6/2022 at 11:32 AM, Ray500 said:
Remember, NAPA paint stores can custom mix your colors if you have any samples. They use a scanner into their computer and the computer mixes the paint. That doesn't mean it's exact, but it will be as the sample you submit. Taking old paint samples can be problematic in repainting the entire vehicle. You might want to have them mix a small batch and put it in a spray can so you can check it out better before you commit to a particular color mix. There are paint charts around for all different models, and that might be your best bet to get it close as possible. And after all, when someone sees your finished project they won't have another exact one like it to compare, and even if they do who's to say which one is correct. Check also with Chris Harrel at Boos Harrel Lincoln who stocks parts as he might have a color chart.
Thanks Ray for the advice. There's very little of the original paint left on the car as she has been painted in other color.
As for taking a paint chip to a paint company is difficult as the spectrophotometer can only read the RGB values as present.
You are right about the correct shade can only be questioned by an expert but I want to do the perfect way.
I did write to Chris Harrell but has no clue about the color bit.
I have been trying to discuss this with Ed at color-it , hopefully something should come up.
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30 minutes ago, 19tom40 said:
TCP Global ( https://www.autocolorlibrary.com/ ) has many of the old formulas in PPG paint. They also can mix a modern equivalent that will appear close to the original. Did you check wit them?
Yes, I did. I have been corresponding with Jon for many weeks now. He has never made this color, any of the two varients but has old formulation. One has to order a quart minimum to know what it's like !
I have been interacting with Tcpglobal for many years and always had a pleasant solution. Jim Wells ( now retired) use to go out of his way to get the correct formulation and quickly. He helped with a rare color for '28 McLaughlin Buick phaeton and Reo flying cloud ( a custom ordered one).
Things are different now as their policy has evolved , for worse, for all collectors , enthusiasts and restorers. Sad.
I read about Tower paints in Oshkosh WI, PPG , but can't find the exact name . Any help will be appreciated.
Dev
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6 hours ago, Ray500 said:
Most all restorations I've seen have the same color inside and out from the factory. Dashboards can be a bit different, but everything else follows color patterns inside the vehicles. If you're not going to enter the vehicle into judging contests, not that important. But traditionally I would keep the color scheme the same. To me that will keep the value of it in coming years. We've seen enough 'rat-rods' of more modern day ideas, but we love these cars for their originality and looks. To me that will also be the attraction of future generations who will also want to collect these cars for their uniqueness and looks. Restoration means just that......restore it to original! Don't forget to send photos when you're finished!
I echo the same belief about restoration. It must be authentic to every detail.
You and other members will appreciate my quest to find the correct Skyline Blue color for the car. It's unfortunate that I cannot find the formulation as yet for the lighter version.
Thanks again for your advice , I will follow the same and share images soon.
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30 minutes ago, Ray500 said:
Most of them I've ever seen are painted black in the undercarriage. I think any interior would be the same as the main color of the vehicle. Doors, under dash, floors and such usually match the exterior color unless someone does a customer paint job and then it could be anything. My '41 Zephyr coupe was undercoated sometime before I got it which protects the underside from harsh weather like the northern states where they salt the roads in the winter and that's very corrosive. I wouldn't remove that unless I did a full off body restoration which mine didn't need. For those who live in the snow states the undercoating keeps the chassis and sheet metal from rusting, even in wet climates. It depends on whether or not one actually drives in weather where the car is exposed to the elements. You might get an as-built report if Ford has one. I have mine and it tells about paint and what the vehicle is equipped with when made. Ford lost some of the as-builts in a fire many years ago, but still has a lot of them. Check it out!
Thanks Ray for the valuable input. I need to paint the car immediately and was totally lost with the authenticity bit.
Just to reconfirm, even the inside of the door , where the window glass is, will be same as the exterior color?
And since the exterior is a metallic color, will all these inner sides be lacquered/ clear coated ?
Please advise.
Regards,
Dev
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Hello,
I am about to paint the underside of the car along with the innerside of the fenders, doors ,inside the boot and floor.
Need guidance regarding the color for the above, will all this be black or same as the exterior body color?
Thanking in advance,
Dev
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On 8/28/2022 at 12:02 PM, The Custodian said:
Esteemed members,
Does any of you know the gent with the login name '39 Pick up' ?
If so, please DM the email / contact info.
He is the only bet in my endeavour to find the correct Skyline Blue color.
Please help.
Dev
Members...does anyone know who "39 PIck UP" is ?
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21 hours ago, The Custodian said:
Thanks again for the advice.
Unfortunately, there's no trace of the Skyline Blue on the car.
On scrapping old paint, I found light green on the inner side of the door, bluish green color on the inner side of one of the fender. And there was no other paint underneath. The car has been in single ownership since new , restored just once without a color change but the Research centre confirms the Skyline Blue as the one from the production records.
I also need to ask if the underside of the car will be black and what color will be on the floor , inner side of the doors and fenders and the boot ?
Please advise.
With warm regards,
Dev
May I request members to please guide me on the Underside ,floor, inner doorskin and boot color asap. I need to paint within a day.
Please help.
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Thanks again for the advice.
Unfortunately, there's no trace of the Skyline Blue on the car.
On scrapping old paint, I found light green on the inner side of the door, bluish green color on the inner side of one of the fender. And there was no other paint underneath. The car has been in single ownership since new , restored just once without a color change but the Research centre confirms the Skyline Blue as the one from the production records.
I also need to ask if the underside of the car will be black and what color will be on the floor , inner side of the doors and fenders and the boot ?
Please advise.
With warm regards,
Dev
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Esteemed members,
Does any of you know the gent with the login name '39 Pick up' ?
If so, please DM the email / contact info.
He is the only bet in my endeavour to find the correct Skyline Blue color.
Please help.
Dev
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Thanks for the info.
Now , the catch, the non metallic Skyline Blue color #10358 in the PPG chart tallies with the Ford code #14138 which is actually metallic in the formulation. I checked the same with Glasurit and they confirmed. So does the old Acme formulation.
The other code #14148 supposedly metallic in the PPG chart is a mystery.
I found 2 cars in the net with Skyline Blue color, # H141931 ( pic attached) a Continental Cabriolet auctioned by Bonhams in 2013. This appears to be in a much lighter metallic color if correct.
The other is a Continental Coupe #H150900 in a very different shade of Greyish Blue and is metallic too.🤔
Does any of the members know about the restorer of these cars who can be contacted to get more details or older pictures? Or any one has more pictures of the Skyline Blue Color ?
Please help.
Dev
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Hello, '46 Lincoln were offered in Skyline Blue metallic. Apparently there were two versions of the same. Does any know more about these?
Please help.
Dev
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Hello, I seek help on the formulation of the correct Skyline Blue color for '46 Continental.
I understand there were two versions, dark & light, metallic and non metallic with different codes.
Will someone please help with more information and images of the above ?
Regards,
Dev
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On 5/24/2014 at 7:01 AM, Guest 39 Pickup said:
Be very careful if you use paint chips to find a color. I have a 1946 LC coupe that was originally Skyline Blue Metallic.The car had been repainted years ago and the color on the car was more of a dull, flat gray than a blue and I could see no metallic in the paint. The paint chips that I had were the same. The inside of the glove box door still had the original decal telling what oil to use and the proper PSI for the tires. The color was so bad that I decided to change color to maroon and bought the paint. When I tore down the car I discovered the original color under the shifter that was bolted to the steering column. The Skyline Blue Metallic was a beautiful color, unlike what was left on the car and the paint chip. Colors of that day are difficult to replicate because in the day, the effects of UV light was not understood/solvable.
Hi, Iam visiting an old thread as looking for the correct Skyline Blue for the '46 Continental.
39 Pickup, I will be thankful if you can share the images of the correct Skyline Blue as you found it.
Anyone knows more abvout it ?
Dev
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