Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Has anyone used the 'P.C.Petrifier' brand of Wood Hardener ?I'm wondering if it is as good as the MinWax Wood Hardener, which is the only type I've used? The MinWax version cost twice as much. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />http://www.acehardwaresuperstore.com/petrifier-wood-hardener-p-1373.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 Rick,Others have talk about this stuff before kwikpolyllc I have never used it but I will need to find some product also for the rotten wood on my project. Has anyone on this forum use it?How does price seem for this stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 That sound like Good stuff Also, even tho it's a 2 part mix, the others are not, which make them easyer to apply in small unmeasured amounts. A wood hardener needs to a Very thin liquid when applying, so it will soak into pores of wood, which that is. I know the MinWax Wood Hardener works well, since I've used it many times, but I was trying to find a good one that cost less. Since I'm going need alot of it for this car. Old dry wood soaks it up like a sponge and an 8oz. can is gone before you know it. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> To apply it, I use a large plastic syringe with a 1" brush to spread it, since you waist a lot trying to just brush it on from a cup or something, because it's such a thin liquid. I think I'm going to try the Petrifier brand and see if it is as good. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 4, 2006 Share Posted April 4, 2006 I ordered some of the Petrifier, So I'll let you know how it works, next week probably. I used all of my last can of the MinWax hardener on the spokes of the 4 wheels I'm working on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JT Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 I've used this:http://www.abatron.com/home002.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 JT, Does it penetrate and seal the wood, well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Rick,Is this the '29 your are working on?Don't you have the whole body off the frame?If so why are you not just replacing the wood? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Yes, Much of the wood will have to be replaced, on the 645, but some is in good condition. No need to spend time and money making parts that I don't need to, when I can just soak them in this stuff and transform them into a good solid Piece of Plastic. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> But mainly I use the Hardener on New wood Also. It's the best sealer there is, to keep it for rotting in the future, Since it soaks deep into the wood. It makes the wood much stronger also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Rick,Sounds like a good plan. I will be buying some sealer then since you have had good results.Let me know how the Petrifier stuffs works. I will wait and see before I make my purchase. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />O by the way how was the price of the Kwikpoly compared to Minwax stuff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 For 1 pint (16 oz): MinWax - $12. (1 part) KwikPoly - $15. (2 part mix) Petrifier - $6. (1 part) LiquidWood - $17.75 (2 part mix) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 5, 2006 Share Posted April 5, 2006 Rick,Thanks. Guess you will see how the Petrifier works for the price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Hi Rick,I stop at an old local Hardware Store in Downtown Lemont Ill last night and they have the Minwax for 8.95 a pint. I didn?t buy any since I got there as they were closing up shop. I like to buy it locally to keep these old time hardware stores up and running. You would not believe what this store has in there. You can spend hours looking at all the old tools and stuff. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> It is like a flea market at this store. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />How did the Minwax work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Yes, the MinWax hardener works Great, I've used it many times. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> That's a Good price, normally $11.99 around here. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 Okay I will buy what they have. I am going to need a lot of it.Have you used the putty stuff at all to repair holes and such? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 I'm sure that other brands are good Also, but I've just always got the Bondo brand, because I Know it works. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> I use it for filling wood as well as metal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 7, 2006 Share Posted April 7, 2006 One thing I forgot to mention is that the 1 part hardeners Evaporate very quickly (about same rate as water) so you want to use it quickly and not leave in open container and reseal cans very tightly. That's another reason I use a syringe to apply it. I don't know if the 2 part types have the same evaporation rate or not, but they probably do, since they are low viscosity also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 12, 2006 Share Posted April 12, 2006 I'm doing comparison Tests on the MinWax and PC-Petrifier Hardeners, and so far the MinWax is the Winner. Both seem to penetrate the wood very well but the MinWax drys quicker, and more important 'Harder'. The Petrifier does have a dispenser nozzle on bottle and the MinWax is in a metal cap can (needed since it evaporates so quickly). They are very different formulas, MinWax is clear and the Petrifier is a milky white color. The Petrifier doesn't say what's in it but it kinda looks like thinned Elmers Glue. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> I haven't tried painting the Petrifier yet, since it didn't seem completely dry yet, but I know the MinWax paints very well after sanding. I will try painting the Petrifier tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Well, the PC-Petrifier Failed my Tests, Even after drying overnight it was Flacky, where it was thick on the surface. Of course it sanded okay and painted okay but don't think it drys hard enough to a good base for painting. The MinWax sands and paints well, So it or the Epoxy types are definitly the ones to use on external wood that is going to be varnished or painted. The Petrifier would be okay to use on internal wood that only needs sealing, to keep out temporary moisture, because it does that. But I doubt it would hold up to prolonged soaking like the MinWax or the Epoxy types would. So it's the Ol' saying 'You Get what you Pay For', Gotta pay more to get the Good stuff. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 Rick,Thanks for sharing and posting your tests. I bought three cans of the Min Wax the other day. What is the coverage per can? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 13, 2006 Share Posted April 13, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> What is the coverage per can? </div></div> That's difficult to answer, because it depends on how dry and thick the wood is. With thicker pieces you need to put on more to let it soak deep into plank and old wood takes much more than new wood. You want to get enough on the First coat, since once it dries you can't get anymore down into grain. With Old thick planks it 'Takes a LOT'. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> For planks that still have good paint I would Not put any hardener, since not much is going to get in anyway. One important place to get the hardener is at the end of the planks, where the end-grain is exposed and those are usually hard to get to. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Rick,Looky here. Minwax hardner at a good price <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Thanks, that is a good price.I placed an order with them. There was a problem with their Website security setup, when the order was finalized, but I think they are Legit. I'll let you know when I get the hardener. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom M Posted April 18, 2006 Share Posted April 18, 2006 Sure any way I could help. You all sure have helped me out on my last few posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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