AVS619 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I was just given this engine by a friend who thinks it may be automotive. I think so too but I can not identify it. Does anyone know what this is? Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 It could be an early Sears engine. If the cylinders are directly opposed instead of being offset like on most engines, and connecting rods are "bent" then it's probably Sears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 I take that back. I don't think it's Sears. I only see exhaust ports, where are the intakes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldiron Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 SDBraverman and AVS619; Sears it's not. Sears jugs I believe were threaded on bottom. It does have some resemblence to the early Brennen engines. But only resemblence. Regards; oldiron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_bjr Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Is it a pump, as it looks like it has a spring loaded check valve on one side. To pump air or water? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 I never saw a pump with priming cups and spark plug holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartHale Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Hi TomThat looks very much like the parts to a Sears or Holsman engine. Do you have pictures of the rest of it? The spring loaded valve is an atmospheric valve. This is the intake valve. It is not a pump. I need a sears motor about 2 months ago, but traded my car for a T as I couldn't find a motor....Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVS619 Posted June 22, 2007 Author Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hello and thank you all for responding to me query about this engine. It is not a Sears as I have a 1909 Sears Model H and this engine looks nothing like the one in the Sears. The atmospheric valve is a clue. Anyway, here are a few more photos. The mounting bracket might also be a clue. Any additional guesses now? Thanks, Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Originally Posted By: AVS619</div><div class="ubbcode-body">It is not a Sears as I have a 1909 Sears Model H and this engine looks nothing like the one in the Sears.</div></div>You are right. It is not a Sears. Remember though that there were two totally different engines for the Sears. The early engine had radial fins on the head and two cams, just like this engine. The other distinctive and strange feature of the early Sears engine was that the cylinders were not offset and the rods were bent to meet the crank journals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Tom,Does your Sears engine look like this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Or does it look like this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuartHale Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Hi,The engine in the first Sears pictures looks very much like the one that I had with my Sears. I wish I had seen this picture before as I may have kept it. Continental made a 2 cylinder opposed engine similiar to the one in question and the one shown in the first sears picture. It had an open flywheel which had continental and serial numbers, etc. I've seen a drawing of this engine, but not a real one. I want to say it was used in a Holsman.Stuart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVS619 Posted June 23, 2007 Author Share Posted June 23, 2007 Hello sdbraverman! Attached is the photo of the engine in my 1909 Sears. The plate on top of the crankcase is obviously not orginal, must be a story behind that. I am leaning more and more to the engine I just got being a Holsman. Any other opinions? Does anyone need it? Tom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flackmaster Posted June 28, 2007 Share Posted June 28, 2007 Brennan? Did someone utter the word Brennan? My non-internet savvy mechanic is working on a 1902 Brennan - if there is ANYONE out there with Brennan information, I'd like to arrange a shotgun wedding...thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccomment Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Here's another picture to contemplate. 1st Photo is a Sears 1909 motor. 2nd the car ist on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I wonder when Sears switched to the later style engine. I can read the car number on the above car as 3026 0r 3028. My father's car is 3448, which we always believed to be close to the end. Most of the cars I have seen have the earlier engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 KC, tell me about that "container" in the right of your picture with the pulley attached. Is that the oiling system?Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Braverman Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 The "container" as you call it is an oiler. It is belt-driven and supplies oil to all the critical spots. You can see the sight glass to determine the level. The four brass doo dads pump up and down as the car runs. By turning the nuts, the flow rate can be adjusted. The Sears uses a total loss system, and the oil eventually leaks out. The shiny clean engine in KC's picture probably doesn't run much. The oily mess in my picture runs all the time. After I went through it, I reassembled it with all new gaskets, and it still drools oil all over the place. The cylindrical thing on top of the later engine is a breather, or as I call it the oil sprayer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted July 5, 2007 Share Posted July 5, 2007 Thanks SD, appreciate the education! Wayne Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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