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I hate to start this up all over again, but we cannot seem to find all the previous information. I have located one of the reproduction bumper step plates for the 1931 Packard roadster. On the bottom is a number, but I don't know if it's an original Packard number or what.

It is: P7547

I think it was Restorer32 who was coming up with the cross referencing for step plates that fit cars with and without rear-mounted spares. This post and the next two will have photos of the step plate attached.

The question is: Is this the correct step plate for Tom's 1931 Packard 833?

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Does the number I gave mean anything? P7547

Someone has scribbled "840" on the plate. Does your book give numbers for 840?

The size of the step -- 6.5 x 7" plus another 1.5 inches for the bolt pad.

Tom, maybe what you can do is copy the photo taken from the top, and increase it to match the 6.5x7", print it out, cut it out and see if it will fit by holding it up to your bumper and bracket.???

Just a thought.

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West,

Thanks for posting the pictures and starting a new thread.

Restorer32

Thanks for the part numbers.

Now is this the corect one for my car?

Would anyone have a picture of how it is mounted?

Thanks

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Tom, maybe what you can do is copy the photo taken from the top, and increase it to match the 6.5x7", print it out, cut it out and see if it will fit by holding it up to your bumper and bracket.???

</div></div> That be a great idea but the bumpers are up in the attic. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

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For the 840 the #s are 181728 for the rear mount and 181710 for the side mounted cars. The P # you have doesn't jive with anything in the Packard parts manuals. In all instances the #s are the same for convertibles and coupes.

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The second "mount" is supposed to be notched so that it fits around the one side of the bumper bracket with a plate bolted to it to hold the bumper bracket, much like how the bumper brackets are held to the frame ends.

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Service parts list. You have to check all the listings for rumble seat, then look over the list until you find rumble seat step plate lower. Check all the index listings for rumble seat until you find your particular application, in your case Body Type 468. I have the paper version, didn't know it had been scanned. In my experience with Packard parts, if it's a different #, it's a different part.

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Tom:

Doing good, but too busy.

Dual Sidemounts.

Depends on the time of year. These days either 151 proof Bacardi rum or 100 proof Canadian Club. In the summer I dip into a selection of fine tequilas picked up during trips down south.

I've also been known to mix up large jugs of Hurricanes.

Bottom line....I'm not fussy.

Geoff

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Your step plate looks a little different then the one West posted. But that one will do good for my purpose of the car.

Hurricanes ahh first time I had one of them My mom and stepfather took us over to New Orleans (that is when they were living down in Mobile Alabama at the time). We were laying around by the pool the day before we went and I got sun burn. That Hurricane sure killed the pain if you know what I mean <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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Slightly different on the front side, but that shouldn't make any difference. The mounting all looks the same. Thanks to Geoff for the photos on how the second mount works. The interesting thing is that from the looks of Geoff's car, unrestored, the step plate is not chrome plated, and quite rough looking (no offense intended, Geoff). Tom and I had a discussion about this. It seems that most restored cars have the step plates chrome plated, or am I mistaken?

Just what is the correct finish supposed to look like?

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awe someone had to catch something. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> That is an easy fix. But wouldn't be to easy if it were the real deal. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

<span style="font-style: italic">If you all ever need anything modeled let me know I can give it a whirl for you.</span>

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I've never seen an original that was other than polished aluminum. </div></div>

Okay. Then the ones I've seen are so nicely polished, they look almost chrome. The reason I asked, is because the step on Geoff's car looks like a cast finish rather than a polished finish.

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It sure is nice to see that there are cars still out there in their original state. It sure helps all of us that are doing restoration work on them.

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I have had this discussion several times with folks restoring Packards. Naturally, everyone wants a nice smooth, fefect free polished casting. Another area where over restoration has become the norm. Gotta admit though, when I do my own car I'm gonna want those steps as pretty as possible. I suppose there may be some steps out there that have been plated but I've never seen an original like that.

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James posted a link in the BUY/SELL of a '31 Packard for sale. It has a rear mounted spare. Strike out this comment <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="text-decoration: underline">The step plate looks like the one West posted.</span> </span> I have a bad monitor here <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">.... from the looks of Geoff's car, unrestored, the step plate is not chrome plated, and quite rough looking (no offense intended, Geoff)... </div></div>

No offense taken. I am proud of the unrestored cars I have owned over the years. This car is about 97% original - sitting in indoor storage since the 50's. Don't get me wrong it needs mechanical, but I will limit the work on the other stuff. Anyway, I am quite certain that this step was never plated - polished maybe but I'm not sure of that. It feels like a rough casting to me. From a practicality standpoint would you want to put your foot on a slippery polished aluminium surface??

I think my photo makes it look rougher that it actually is. I would say that it is consistent with the one shown on the Hyman car for sale.

Geoff

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">James posted a link in the BUY/SELL of a '31 Packard for sale. It has a rear mounted spare. The step plate looks like the one West posted. </div></div>

Tom. Take a closer look. It's quite a bit different, as the bumper end itself wraps around. See the angle of the right side of the plate? The mounting point is totally different.

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  • 3 years later...

I know old post but since my restoration is coming along and bumpers will be hung in the next month or so.

I am in need of a picture or two of the drivers side rear bumper attachment. Was at a car show yesterday and saw a '31 convert there and the mounting looks different then what is on my car and am curious if mine has been modified or ????

Thanks for all the help.....

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West that is exactly like the one I saw at the show yesterday. Thank you very much for the quick reply.

FYI mine looks like the one in the above picture of the green car. The two extra brackets I guess were install since the car was missing the step plate.

Would you know or anyone else on here where I can fins the little chrome ball that goes between the two bumpers?

Attach is a reference picture I took before I started to disassemble the car.

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Two extra brackets??? I'm not following you. Yours looks correct.

ALSO. I wouldn't put a LOT of credence in the photo that I posted. There were some other things about that car that I didn't think were correct. It was restored very nicely, but I'm not sure if some of the stuff that was restored was correct for the car.

I recently saw (on eBay maybe) a reproduction of the complete bolt and spacer. It was some pie-in-the-sky price of $700 or more if I recall. I'm not sure why it was so much. It doesn't seem like a lot of tool-and-die work, or casting????

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