1911Mystery Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Dear Buick Enthusiasts,I posted another message earlier but didnt add a picture. Here is a picture if anyone can help me. The car has a wheelbase of about 109 in and the serial number on the frame is 7071. While I purchased this car at auction as a 1911 Buick, I believe that it could be another car, even though I have the original title for it.Thank you for all your help,Bart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Paulsen Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hi,Nice looking car. It looks like a 1912 Model 28/29 or probably a 1913 Model 30/31. The front fenders appear to be original. If they have a series of small (1/4"?) rivets on them, it is a 1912, if they do not, it is a 1913. It looks to have a modified body, so this may be the only way to tell since the chassis are nearly identical.I hope this helps,Chris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Joe Kieliszek Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hello,I agree with Chris; the body looks to have been modified or it isa variant of the '12 model 28 which has a listed wheelbase of108". The photo/illustration I have of that model shows doors anda tapered metal cowl rather than a wood dash board...Thanks,Joe <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVS619 Posted January 20, 2007 Share Posted January 20, 2007 Hello! Nice car. The body is, to me, modified and it does not appear that the fenders have the rivets, so it may not be a Model 28. For reference, I am attaching a photo of my unrestored 1912 Buick Model 28 as it arrived a few winters ago. The photos are not great but is very cold that day. Hope that they give you an idea of the Model 28 body shape. Note that the radiator is painted. Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVS619 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Additional photo of my 1912 Model 28. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVS619 Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 And one more. Sorry, could need seem to attach more than one at a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Dear 1911: I looked in my reference files to see what years and models of Buicks could ave a frame number of 7071. I looked at 1910 thru 1913 and there are 4 possibilities. Only one of those has a WB near the 109 you describe and that's a 1913 Model 30, which could have a frame number of 7071 and has a WB of 108 inches. Regards, Dave Corbn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1911Mystery Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 I would like to thank everyone for your help and pictures you have posted for me. I have been struggling to figure this car out for about 3 months now, and with your help it only took one day. The only car that the wheelbase and frame numbers match up to is a 1913 Model 30 as Dave Corbin and others thought it may be. Everything else fits the Model 30, with the exception of the color, but this has been known to have been changed. Thank you all very much you have all been helpful like every other member I have encountered on this site.Sincerely,Bart Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DaveCorbin Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Dear Bart: First, I enjoy helping other Buick people get it right on their cars. There are a lot of Buicks out there from the early years that get mis-dated for one reason or another, and this causes parts buying and restoration problems. Second, I love a good mystery. Third, it has taken me from 2000 to 2006, about 5000 hours of effort, and about $5000 worth of parts books and travel expenses to get the information together to cover from 1904 thru 1958 model years. In the process, I uncovered about 275 errors or mismatches in the data Buick left us from that time period, and reconciled it so that my data files now represent the best view we'll ever have of the actual cars that Buick produced. At the end, Buick reported that they built across that 55 model year span 9,634,231 cars. This was hand compiled and totalled across those 55 years, probably by at least 20 people. My computer-compiled total, all cross-checked with other records, and all done by one person (me) was: 9,634,219, a difference of 12 cars or .00012%, so the mismatches very nearly canceled out. That's the WHY of this website. There's a lot of questions posted that I don't even know where to start or have no interest in the information, other than to read it and learn. There are some, however, like yours, that I can give a laser-beam answer to. When I can, it's fun! Regards, Dave Corbin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Joe Kieliszek Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Hello,Just to add to the confusion, weren't brass radiator shells prettymuch phased out by 1912 and replaced by steel? (at least in Buickscase..)Just wonderin',Joe <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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