1949 Sedan

[SpyderGuy]

Greetings.

I am thinking about taking taking the plunge and buying a Packard. I am going to look at a car this weekend. I only have 3 pics of the car thus far, but I would be interested in thoughts on this model and any particular observations on this car. The owner mentioned that it had a resray a few years back, but that otherwise it is original. The interrior looks like it needs some work.

I am usually amazed by some of the things that others can notice in pics (I spend time on a couple of old Mercedes and Porsche boards).

Thanks,

RF

[Guest imported_49packard]

I assume you know it is a 22 series-I have a 49 23-basically the same. Good car easy to work on-parts readily available. The expensive stuff is the chrome/paint. I would buy a copy of the magazine that lists car values. The interior is fairly easy to work on. Check instruments to insure all are working.

From the pic-it looks good.

[Guest Randy Berger]

Do you have a shot at the front end? Do you have the serial number? If it is the high end 1948 it should have the fore and aft headliner. Make sure it still has the original engine if you are paying top dollar.

[Clipper47]

I don't think it's a Custom because the hubcaps aren't cloisonne and the Custom had two stainless trim pieces above the rockers not one. It looks like a nice car but be sure to inspect the usual rust out areas like rocker panels,inner fender liners and floors. Good solid reliable cars but if possible take someone with you familiar with the model. It does have a Cormorant which is a nice bonus!

[SpyderGuy]

Attached is a pic of the front end. I appreciate any additional info you may be able to generate from the pics.

I think the price is about $4500. When I was younger I always wanted a newer a faster sports car (had vipers, porsches...). As I get older, I am having more fun with less expensive, but more unique cars. The Packard would join a 1955 Porsche Spyder (replica) and 2002 Ford Thunderbird in my "weekend" garage.

I would rate my mechanical skills at a C+, but I enjoy doing the research. That being said, I don't have much time for research between now and Saturday (when I go to look at the car) - so any pointers would be helpful.

Thanks.

[SpyderGuy]

Inside

[rybikowsk]

if the car is solid, 4500.00 is a good price, the car looks like it may be a super 8.ths sunvisor is a bonus. these cars have been unoticed by most, thus the low prices, I think these cars very soon will be jumping in price, they deserve it they are rugged cars, easy to do most work on, and give forth a regal feel going down the road. keep us posted.mike r

[Clipper47]

I agree with Mike. It looks like a nice car for the money. If it's a Super Eight it will have a 327 engine and if not a 288. The visor is a bonus but a bigger one to my mind is that the car has overdrive (notice the white knob under the dash by the steering column). If you can get the numbers from the dat plate on the firewall and get back to us. Good luck!

[Guest bkazmer]

I think it's an Eight Deluxe (not an Eight) or a Super Eight based on the door panel trim.

[Guest JT]

I agree with everyone in that $4500 is a great price if it runs well and has no rust issues. As Dave mentioned it would be helpful if you had another old car guy go with you to lay another set of eyes on it.

Take a flashlight and be prepared to crawl around under the car, engine compartment, etc.

Another thing to have with you is a small magnet to check for bondo/rust repair areas on the body.

Good luck with the purchase.

[Clipper47]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">I think it's an Eight Deluxe (not an Eight) or a Super Eight based on the door panel trim. </div></div>

I think so too with the pleated button seats.

[rybikowsk]

if you decide not to get it, please let the rest of us know where it is. carpe diem

[Rusty_OToole]

Book value for a 1949 2301 Deluxe 4 door sedan - #1, $20,000 #2 $14,000 #3 $9,450 #4 $4200 #5 $2400 #6 $800. These values tend to be on the high side. Hope this helps.

[Guest imported_49packard]

I like your numbers but I think they are very high-the last numbers I got for deluxe were:10000/7600/4300 for #1/2/3.

[Rusty_OToole]

They seem high to me too. I copied them straight out of my Old Cars Price Guide.

By the way I'm still using the Feb 2006 edition so it could be a little out of date. I doubt prices have changed very radically in the last year however.

[SpyderGuy]

Ok..... I bought the car. It is not going to win any shows, but I think it will be tons of fun. I will post some more pics when I get the car back to my home this weekend.

[Tom M]

Congrats on your new purchase and welcome to the wonderful world of ownership of a Packard. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

[Guest BigKev]

Congrats on becoming a Packard Owner. Here are a few things on the website that might be help when working on your '49.

1941-1949 Engine Service Manual

1948-1949 22nd Series Paint Chips

Complete Utltramatic Service Information

1949 Dealer Accessories Price Book

1949-1951 Ditzler Paint Chips

1949 Golden Anniversary Brochure

1929-1956 Packard National Automotive Service Data

1937-1949 Packard Bearing Data

Carburetor Service Training Manual

1949 Packard Owners Manual

1949 Service Technial Bulletins (STBs)

1947-49 Service Repair and Tuneup Booklet

[Clipper47]

Congratulations on your purchase of an American icon! We're here to help. Post photos please and the data plate info.

[rybikowsk]

welcome to the adventure, may your packard run forever.

[SpyderGuy]

Ok, I finally had time to take a few more pics.

Outside

[SpyderGuy]

Hood

[SpyderGuy]

back seat -

[SpyderGuy]

Front Seat - rather larger tear. Anyone know of good fabric sources. I would like a period correct look and similar pattern/color, but by no means do I need repro original fabric.

[Guest Randy Berger]

Check with SMS in Portland Ore. Have your upholsterer tell you how much to order.

[Guest CaptainBristol]

A couple of years ago SMS moved to much larger digs in Canby, Oregon, which is a Portland suburb. I visited the place last year and was amazed at the depth and breadth of the inventory. Here is their website:

http://www.smsautofabrics.com/

All the best,

Mark in Alaska

[Twitch]

So did you buy it yet? That car is totally wiorth the money. Jump at it. Outrwardly is is cosmetically very decent and dosen't appear to need chrome. Interior repair is the least of it. Get that car if you haven't already!