8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 we have been banging our heads on sharp rocks trying to figure out what this frame is from . any ideas ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 another picture . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 yet another picture . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 does this help ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 these rocks are REEEEEEALLY SHARP . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 How about 490 Chevrolet with quarter eliptic springs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 you mean 1949 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 As Layden B pointed out, those are quarter elliptical springs. The regular, full length spring that we are all used to seeing is a half or semi elliptical. A full elliptical is usually seen on buggys and Horseless carriges and is two semis attached to each other to form an ellipse. JC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Chevrolet Model 490 ( named for the introductory price of $490) built 1916 thru 1922. This frame is not 1916 as it does not have duplex front springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 could this have been used as a truck frame ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Could have been made into a little pickup truck but 490s were a competitor to Model T Fords and thus a small car. May have been made into a 4 wheel wagon with a steering tongue on the front axle, that was common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Author Share Posted June 18, 2006 and it had quarter elliptical springs on all 4 corners ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrpushbutton Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Cord L-29's had those quarter-eliptical springs, but that frame looks too wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Yes. 4 cylinder engine with overhead valves (no cover, exposed rocker arms), at first no water pump, starter and generator an optional extra, rims did not demount ( no spare), neither the touring nor the roadster had a drivers side door ( just like the Ford), just plain transportation at a low price! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 OVERLAND was another car in the 1920's to use 1/4 eliptic springs on all four corners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Sometimes the definitions can become a bit hazy but along with the last example would be the Model T A and V-8 Fords. The Ford TT trucks of the period are truely quarter eliptic in the rear as the springs are separate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 NO!!!!!!!!! The Model TT Ford truck had a transverse half eliptical rear spring, SAME STYLE as the T passenger car only larger. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 NO!!!!!!!!! The Model TT Ford truck had a transverse half eliptical rear spring, SAME STYLE as the T passengerCorrectamundo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Layden B Posted June 19, 2006 Share Posted June 19, 2006 Yes!!!!! While from the top it would look like continuous leaves from one side to the other as in the car but the truck is 2 separate identical almost half sets with a space between in the middle of the rear crossmember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aanderson44 Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">NO!!!!!!!!! The Model TT Ford truck had a transverse half eliptical rear spring, SAME STYLE as the T passengerCorrectamundo. </div></div>Correct!Even the Model AA Ford trucks used semi-eliptical rear springs on the 1.5 ton versions (1-ton Express Trucks used transverse rear springs), which were cantilevered, with the front end solidly mounted to the frame by bolt and bushing, securely clamped in place to the frame in the middle of the spring, and the rear ends of the springs shacked to the top of the axle housing, the entire leave spring mounted so that the leaves arched upward. Model BB and later Ford 1.5 tone trucks used conventionally mounted semi-eliptic leaf springs, mounted longitudinally.Art Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest boettger Posted June 20, 2006 Share Posted June 20, 2006 My educated guess is Chevrolet 1918 490 thru 1924 Superior.The Transmission mounting is the same as on my 1923 Chevrolet Superior.I believe the basic frame was the same on all these models. There were differences in the front axle between years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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