PACKARD PEOPLE TRIVA

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In 1914 in Fenton Michagan a new car was introduced to the motoring public the FENTON. The Fenton came equiped with an air colded two cylinder engine, belt drive and friction transmission. The car was an open model with a deep vee front styling similar to the British Vauxhall. The wheel base of the auto was 96 inches with a tread width of 36 inches. The company went out of business in 1914.

The designer of the Fenton was Oscar J Howick a former employee of Packard before going to Fenton. After Fenton went out of business he designed another car that was named the Elgin Light Car which never went into production.

John F. Shireman

[Dr Morbius]

I don't believe I'll be investing in any of Mr. Howick's ideas in the near future. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for the heads up !!!!! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

P.S. all kidding aside I found this interesting. Just think of the ramifications if it was Col. Vincent instead of Mr. Howick. Probably wouldn't be air cooled! <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

................................Steve

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Twin Six: I got a nice little piece of information about Col. Vincent, as to what make of auto he owned before going to work for Packard. I have some other information about former people employed by Packard, that you aren't going to get any place else other than from me.

John F. Shireman

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Anna Romanchik. Pin striper for PMCC ca. 1930's - 42.

[Dr Morbius]

John , I know the Col. worked for I believe Hudson Motors so I would guess a 1909 or 1910 Hudson? Am I right??? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

....................................Steve

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Twin Six: Your answer kinda of caught me off guard, becuae I had forgotten that Jesse worked for Hudson. Jesse went to wrok for Hudson in 1910 and went to Packard in 1911. Thanks for bringing out that point about Jesse.

Jesse while working for the Burroughs Adding Machine Company, were his position was superintendent of inventions, owned a Chalmers-Detroit which was produced from 1908 till 1910.

John F. Shireman

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1916 to 1924: In 1916 a car company was formed in Detroit Michigan called the COLUMBIA SIX. J.G. Bayliner, Walter L. Daly, t.A. Bollinger, along with A. T. O'CONNER FORMLY OF PACKARD founded this car company.

The Columbia Six was an assembled car equiped iwth Continental engimnes, Timkin axles and roller bearing, Detroit Self Lubricating springs, warner transmission and steering gear, borg & Beck clutch, Stromberg carb, Harrison radiator. The one feature that belonged exclusively to the Columbia Six was its motor tempature control, a thermostat placed just above the fan that automatically opend the radiator shutters as the teperature of the engine increased. This was feature was introduced in 1916. 1955 PackardGuy what year did Packard introduce this feature, since Packard according to the Packard First list, claims to be the first.

John F. Shireman

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Gray Detroit Michigan 1922 to 1926: When announced during the spring of 1920, the Gray Motor Corperation was a venture capitalized at $4 million, which took over the Gray Motor Company, builder of engines in Detroit, for the purpose of building a meduim priced four cylinder car. Heading the project was FRANK F. BEALL, FORMER VICE PRESIDENT OF PACKARD MOTOR CAR COMPANY and William H. Blackburn former cadillac superintendent. The new Gray sold for around $500.00 and was to suppose to compete with the Model T head on. The Gray came equiped with 20 horsepower four cylinder engine, a three speed selective transmission, and single cantilever springs in front, double cantilever springs in the rear. In the fall of 1922 a Gray car was driven from San Francisco to new York, averaging 33.8 miles to the gallon over a distance of 4819 miles, and the gas milage set a new transcontinetal bench mark. The company went out of business in 1926.

John F. Shireman