Aeronaut Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 I've spent hours trying to ID this one... without success. I thought the very distinctive hood would have made it easy. Boy, was I wrong.Features are similar to the Rambler and Packard styling from 1904-1906.Any comments on this circa 1905 Touring Tonneau would be greatly appreciated. Photos were taken near Los Angeles, probably Pasadena area.I hate to put undue pressure on anyone, but you fellows are my last hope. Thanks in advance.Happy TrailsRod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
durospeed Posted March 18, 2006 Share Posted March 18, 2006 it may be a Tourist,the front fenders are throwing me of although. they were made there in LA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 NICE PHOTOS! Welcome to the Forum! Looks like a 1905 Queen to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oxnard Montalvo Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 People sure look serious in these old pictures. I wonder why no one ever seems to smile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
52deluxe Posted March 19, 2006 Share Posted March 19, 2006 to my understanding the length of time to take a picture was fairly great. i know in early photography it would be upwards of 10min so would have been hard to hold a pose without moving that was not natural. im not sure of the time it took to get a picture on film by the time this would have been taken tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aeronaut Posted March 19, 2006 Author Share Posted March 19, 2006 Of all the models I've looked at, the coachwork of the Tourist most closely matches the photos in question. I think the door gives it away. It's quite unique and personally I can't find this particular shape on any other make or model.Unfortunately there is very little about the Auto Vehicle Company Tourist on the www and only 1907 models to compare to. Remarkably, a circa 1905 ad from an LA history website shows an almost exact matching fender, thus imho, eliminating your doubts. Thank you for your help Mike. I accept this is probably a 1906 Tourist Touring Car. The facts all seem to fit. FYI I'm almost certain these photos were taken in or around Pasadena about March 1909 by aviation pioneer Roy Knabenshue, probably using a camera such as a Kodak Brownie which would have a shutter speed of 1/30 sec. More on that later.Happy TrailsRod Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry Bond Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 Im going to guess it's a Yale. The Tourist has a much more pronounced curve to the radiator lines. I also believe the Tourist had gently curving rear fenders rather than a straight running board meeting up with the rear fender. Tourist and I also think Queen used an access port in the top of the hood also and that doesnt show in the pictures. Just a guess-Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest brockway Posted March 20, 2006 Share Posted March 20, 2006 And Yale it is Here's a ad of 1905 Yale and it looks very much like that car. See the pic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlLaFong Posted March 21, 2006 Share Posted March 21, 2006 I don't think so. Look at the frame horns on the Yale compared to the photo. Also, the Yale has the port on the top of the hood, the mystery car doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gossp Posted May 5, 2006 Share Posted May 5, 2006 This might seem off the wall.... but take a look at White. That would make it a steam car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Stllrng. Posted May 6, 2006 Share Posted May 6, 2006 Absolutely NOT a White! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8BALL_olson Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 count the side louvers , people ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomchaney Posted June 18, 2006 Share Posted June 18, 2006 Coachwork looks like a Tourist but not the radiator. I'm leaning toward Queen also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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