imported_v12lincoln Posted February 22, 2006 Posted February 22, 2006 Well I got out to go look at the 47 2 door fastback custom super 8 today, not what I was expecting, nice straight body but needing a complete restoration, more work than my bad back can handle right now. But he also had a very nice 48 custom 8 fastback complete and in very nice shape, still a restoration project but nobody would complain with it sitting in the driveway for awhile and for the price I think im getting the 48 next week. In case anyone is interested he has a nice 54 Pacifica hardtop he wants to sell with and extra 327 9 main motor to go with it. The 48 still is all original and he even has a complete 356 engine to go along with it too.If I can get my camera to load the pics on the computer I will post some of the cars.
imported_v12lincoln Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 these cars are in sacramento,Ca. I will post some pics when I get the camera to work. I am picking up the 48 custom coupe next week, the 47 2125 has a nice body and most of the chrome but needs complete restoration. he also has 4 more fastbacks mostly 48-50s one nice and 3 needing help.
Dr Morbius Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 That '54 Pacific hardtop should have a 359 cu in 9 main engine, if any one was thinking of buying it. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> ...................................Steve
imported_v12lincoln Posted February 23, 2006 Author Posted February 23, 2006 Did I say it had a 327?? If I did was was wrong, the pacifica has the 359 with 2 rods sticking through the side, he has a 327 engine to go with the car to replace the 359, Isnt the 359 just a bored and stroked 327 anyway? I dont know myself.
Guest Albert Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 THe 359 is a 9 main engine, with a 1/16 larger bore and a 1/4 inch longer stroke than the 327ci, also the 359 is a 54 engine only
Guest imported_Speedster Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 But, didn't Some '54 Seniors have the 327 engine? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Clipper47 Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> But, didn't Some '54s have the 327 engine? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>The 327 engine was used in several models including the Clipper Deluxe, the Clipper Super and the Packard Cavalier. The 288 was still offered in the 1954 Clipper Special. The various Packard 400 models had the 359.My source is Dr. Marvin's Packard Identification Guide, Volume one, Second Edition Copyright 1990
Packard8 Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> But, didn't Some '54s have the 327 engine? <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> </div></div>Yes, the ?54 Cavalier and Clipper Deluxe had the 5 main 327. The 9 main 327 was used in the 51-53 seniors.
Guest imported_Speedster Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 So, the 327 was Not used in the Pacific, so therefore would Not be a 'Correct' replacement engine for the Blown 359? I think that was the point that v12lincoln was asking about?
Packard8 Posted February 23, 2006 Posted February 23, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> So, the 327 was Not used in the Pacifica, so therefore would Not be a 'Correct' replacement engine for the Blown 359? I think that was the point that v12lincoln was asking about? </div></div>That's correct Rick. The Pacific HT, 5479 convert, Patrician and Carib all used the 9 main 359 in 1954.
Guest Albert Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 From the outside the 359 & the 288/327 look the same, except the 359 should have an aluminum head, and there is 9 plugs along the passanger side just above the oil pan, the 327/288 only have 5 (Feed holes to main bearings) and the serial #'s are different.
Dr Morbius Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 All true, and it's Packard Pacific , not Pacifica .... I think your mixing it up with some newer Chrysler product. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> .......................Steve
imported_v12lincoln Posted February 24, 2006 Author Posted February 24, 2006 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">From the outside the 359 & the 288/327 look the same, except the 359 should have an aluminum head, and there is 9 plugs along the passanger side just above the oil pan, the 327/288 only have 5 (Feed holes to main bearings) and the serial #'s are different. </div></div>Just for my information, will the 327 9 main and the 359 crankshaft interchange? Now Im talking about the 9 main bearing engines only, and wouldnt you get more compression out of the iron head than the aluminum???
Guest Albert Posted February 24, 2006 Posted February 24, 2006 you may be able to use the 327 9 main crank in the 359 but you would also have to also use the 327 rods and you would only be a little ahead with the larger pistons of the 359. The 288 head does have the smaller combustion area than the 327 or 359 head and they will all interchange to a 359 block. I have a 327 head that came on my 359 block, I have since ground off the "327" off the top of the head to save on questions at the shows. I also picked up a cast iron head that uses 10mm plugs marked "HC" high compression that will also fit the later streight 8's
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