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Well since it's a slow news day around here, how about something for you Engineering Types to noodle on.

My '54 Clipper Deluxe engine is a 327 with a 288 head on it.

1) What would the engine displacement be with that configuration

2) What would be the compression ratio.

3) Estimated horsepower and torque.

Nothing I really need, but if you guys are bored and want to do some figuring I would like to see what you folks come up with.

There is a local classic car show tomorrow and also the PI swap meet on Sunday morning. I'll take the digicam with me and snap some pics of the Packards to share.

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from what i understand the 288ci head has a smaller combustion area than the 327 so it is suppose to increase the compression, but i'am unsure by how much though.. you would almost have to cc it and then compare it to that of the 327.

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I went down to the car show there had near here. Mostly Tri-5 Chevys, Muscle Cars, and the average Street Rod cars you see everywhere. This was the only Packard in attendance.

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This is a '32 Packard 900 Light Eight Deluxe Sedan. 1 of 17 left in existance, and only one on the West Coast. Only downside was that the powertrain was all Chevy. I didnt look to see if there was an Olds near end in it or not. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

For a small car show with less than a 100 vehicles in attendance I was suprised to see even one Packard. Only about 2 of the early 50's and Pre-War cars had original powertrain in them. One guy had a '50 Pontiac with a Staight 8 in it and I was asking him some questions about it and he didnt know a thing about it. He said "I don't know anything about what goes on under the hood, thats my mechanics business".

There were some nice First Gen Corvettes there, which are my favorite series of Corvettes. One of them had a full working vintage Rochester Fuel Injection setup.

Hopefully I will have some nice pics tomorrow from the PI Packard Swapmeet. Oh btw for you guys in the Northern Climates, it was 78 degrees and sunny here. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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From the information flyer that was on the car, this was a one year only model. With only 17 left known to exist in the world, you would think the owner would try to put the correct engine and running gear back in. But from the updated gauges, radio and A/C added to the interior, I guess that he drives it quite often. All of the cars at this show were driven in. No trailer queens.

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The 1932 900 Light Eight was only produced for one year, total production was 6750 acording to what information that I have. The body style shown in the picture you posted, I think is list as 4 door sedan body no 553.

John F. Shireman

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Yes you are correct, it is a 553 Sedan. But it did have dual side mounts, not sure if this was an option or not. Also it had a Packard trunk hanging off the back.

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Pictures from the PI Swap Meet. A pretty good span from Brass Era right through '56. Basically only one '51-54. The pre-war cars were out in strength. Enjoy.

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Looks like he took sme liberties with the statement of only one on the West Coast as a quick glance of the PI roster shows one in WA, OR and another one in CA so I imagine there is more.

Having Chevy running gear so I deflates the 1 of 17 left. I would imagine there is quite a bit more left as they made a lot of these and the Sedan was most likely one of the more popular body style.

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Well it was a bit chilly today. I think it was 63 degress out there.. burrrrr I should have brought out the heavy winter coat. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Yeah there were a few other makes in with the Packards, but they are very nice.

I bought one of the PI engine room judging guides that brakes down proper engine room colors from just about every year and model. They have it set up so you can buy the complete judging guide or just sections. (IE Engine Room, Interior, Tires and Wheels, Fit and Finish etc) The engine section was all I needed at the moment, which has a lot of good information and pictures for $18. Right down the proper spark plug boots (or lack of) on a year by year and model by model. Even some of the mid-year changes that ocurred. They even point out differences between pre-production pictures and promotion, that some people have used in restoration, .vs actual production state.

I know they have another smaller Swapmeet coming up around the May timeframe. It doesnt get the bigger vendors from out of state, but still they had a lot of nice stuff at last years. Time to start saving my money again.

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Well perhaps he was refering to just his particular model/body style. I'm just reporting what was on the guys project board. I'm far from an expert, so take it with a grain of salt.

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Well perhaps he was refering to just his particular model/body style. I'm just reporting what was on the guys project board. I'm far from an expert, so take it with a grain of salt. </div></div>

Wasn't referring to you as I realized you were just reporting what the guy has listed.

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I am the roster keeper for the Packard 900 for the CCCA. I don't have an exact figure handy but there are more like 50 or so 900 4 door sedans surviving. As to the statement that his is a "Deluxe Sedan", there ain't no such animal. The sidemounts and trunk rack are options. The only really rare 900 is the 2 door sedan. I only know of 5 of those, including an extremely rough one in my possession.

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Why is it called a Coupe Sedan, and not a 5 passenger Coupe or Club Coupe? To me, Coupes have 2 doors and Sedans have 4 doors? How can it be both? Is that what Packard called them?

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It looks like they did not have a dedicated parking lot for Packards only. Kinda strange for a national meet. The Detroit meet coming up in July will have a dedicated lot for up to 400 cars. How many Packards were in attendance?

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These were just the Packards that were scattered around the far back parking lot where the Swap Meet was. There was a parking garage up near the hotel where I would assume the majority of the cars were at.

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Packard called it a Coupe Sedan. No idea why. Beautiful body style not unlike a Model A Ford Victoria. This body was also available on the '33 Standard 8 chassis. Impressive list of options available on the 900, including fully chromed steel disc wheels and extremely rare external horns with the bells contoured like the grill. Wish I had a set of those!

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<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body">Packard called it a Coupe Sedan. No idea why. Beautiful body style </div></div>

I guess Coupe-Sedan does Sound more Elegant, than Club-Coupe. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> (I always wondered where the name 'Club' Coupe came from?)

And I agree, the 900 was one of the all time best designs. <img src="http://forums.aaca.org/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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