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12 hours ago, edinmass said:


I find the above custom coach built car interesting, historical, and their stories of being built, found, and now restored great fun. The only issue is their styling is how should we say.............way outside the envelope of natural progression at the time.......they didn’t end up with a masterpiece of design. They ended up with a strange curiosity. I’m glad someone is taking on the restoration of the car back to it’s original configuration. I’m sure I will see it at Pebble and Amelia when finished, and I expect that they would win a trophy. But it won’t be for design, or style. 

 

I regularly have to remind commenters that Spohn DID NOT style these custom cars.   The customer made the styling choice and most of them were USAF pilots reading US custom car books.   Spohn did have a "box of toys" which was photos and drawings of other cars including US concept cars like the GM LeSabre concept from Harley Earl.   Multiple pilots came to Spohn and chose those LeSabre fins that were so very much like their Sabre jets!   Yes, their choices were often incongruous.   

Keep in mind Spohn Carosserie was the primary coachbuilder for Maybach, completing a significant majority of their great German Classics.   Spohn was said to have the finest finishes on their cars in the pre-WWII market.

With WWII, most of the world's coachbuilders closed their doors partly because of economics and partly because car bodies were no longer being wood framed.   Maybach closed with the war.   After the war Spohn's managing family the Eiwangers, hoped to make the business profitable once again through individual contracts with Mercedes, Veritas, Volkswagen and others but there was no volume.   US style customs for reconstruction US forces in Germany were thought to be one possibility.   We think some two dozen Spohn Customs on US chassis were built.

Yes, the Spohn Palos will be on the concours scene when finished.  Look for it probably in 2021. 

 

Photo.  What would you like us to do, Lieutenant?  Herr Eiwanger talks to a '52 Lincoln owner about customizing his car.   That car is one of 5 Spohn Customs extant.

 

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I am sure there are those who don't think the dysfunctional grille is not butt ugly.

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On 12/25/2019 at 8:23 PM, StillOutThere said:

 

I regularly have to remind commenters that Spohn DID NOT style these custom cars.  

 

 

I'm sure they were just trying to survive at that point.  Their prewar work was very tasteful.  You are fortunate that the GI that ordered your car had taste.   The Veritos is also not ugly,  but some of the others...

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You mean the hot dog grille was not a Spohn design ? Is certainly the rong shape and location for airflow either intake or extractor.

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2 hours ago, padgett said:

You mean the hot dog grille was not a Spohn design ? Is certainly the rong shape and location for airflow either intake or extractor.

 

I don't know which of the dozens of grilles you are calling "the hot dog grille".  Which car? 

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This one. The ones stolen from GM are not bad but why would someone want a Chrysler to look like a Buick ?

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On 12/27/2019 at 2:29 PM, padgett said:

This one. The ones stolen from GM are not bad but why would someone want a Chrysler to look like a Buick ?

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Regards the Buick concept grille on the Chrysler, my supposition would be the car's owner thought it would take the design of the car into the future.   Any custom car is the owner's dream.  We can criticize but ALL design is subjective.

 

Regarding the upper grille or "hot dog grille" on the Veritas, the car may not always have been so as the attached photo shows.   We don't have VINs for the two Veritas customized by Spohn nor photo dates in most cases.   Could be that after completion sans upper grille, the car was found to require more cooling.

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FYI, Spohn had built more than half of the Veritas car bodies on production chassis.   These were not "Spohn Customs".  These were the catalog offerings.   Examples.

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A couple of the Spohn Customs that do not get into stories about Spohn are these. 

First a '47 Oldsmobile.   You'll agree it looks like a Packard.

Then a '51 Chevrolet.  Owner chose the Ford X-100 concept grille.

And an American style "radical custom" '50 Oldsmobile that has been both chopped and sectioned.

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Meanwhile in Spohn's quest to survive postwar,  they received a contract to build the first Guillore-bodied Bugatti Type 101 prototype.  

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On 12/25/2019 at 6:23 PM, StillOutThere said:

 

We think some two dozen Spohn Customs on US chassis were built.

 

 

 

Urban legend has it there was one Spohn build on a Tucker chassis.😲  Last I ever read or heard of such a thing was in 1973 or so.  Is it still urban legend?

 

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12 hours ago, 8E45E said:

Urban legend has it there was one Spohn build on a Tucker chassis.😲  Last I ever read or heard of such a thing was in 1973 or so.  Is it still urban legend?

 

Craig

That is new to me.  I think the Tucker enthusiasts might have pursued that to the end of the world by now.   Will admit I never thought to look for a Spohn bodied Tucker!  

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On 12/29/2019 at 2:45 PM, bryankazmer said:

not bad except for a particularly bad job on the folded top stack - a problem area for most German coachbuilders

 

For the Spohn Palos, the cabrio top fully disappears and there they made a steel "hard boot" cover.

 

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perhaps the lack of oxygen at times influenced the pilots choices.as ray would say beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

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On 12/29/2019 at 3:58 PM, StillOutThere said:

Meanwhile in Spohn's quest to survive postwar,  they received a contract to build the first Guillore-bodied Bugatti Type 101 prototype.  

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This actually is pretty good looking - hate to say it, the rest unique and interesting, though not so good looking. 

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The Sponn bodied Veritas is for sale again.  This time by Hyman.  Surprising it has never got a wash.  I guess it is still not running.

 

https://hymanltd.com/vehicles/6657-1950-bmw-veritas-sp90-spohn-roadster/

 

Late in the 1930s, Germany's powerful propaganda machine took on the world of motor racing, throwing untold resources toward utter domination of the sport. Government-backed Grand Prix teams from Mercedes-Benz and Auto Union operated with virtually unlimited budgets, and the cars they produced were marvels of technical sophistication, overwhelming the competition in the process. In sports car racing, BMW briefly achieved similar status, particularly in the 2-liter classes, where their light and nimble 328 was the only car to have if you wanted a chance at winning. They even beat the Italians on sacred ground, winning the 1940 Mille Miglia in a streamlined 328 built especially for the event. But after the war, German motorsport was an altogether different scene. The cars that dominated the pre-war events were locked away, destroyed, or broken up for parts. The legendary Nurburgring Nordschliefe became overgrown, and the surface torn up by tank tracks. But racers are nothing if not persistent, and clubs soon regrouped, cleaned up circuits, and began trading food and cigarettes for spark plugs, spare parts, and fuel.

 

For the German motor industry, sports cars were the last things on their minds. Material shortages and rationing meant it was all they could do to rebuild factories and get German citizens back on wheels. Despite the devastation and austerity, racers still wanted cars, and three German friends planned to meet that demand. Ernst Loof, Georg Meier, and Lorenz Dietrich met while serving in Paris during the war. In cafes, they daydreamed about building sports cars and swapped stories of their racing exploits before the hostilities. All three men had connections with BMW via car racing, motorcycle racing, and sales, so it was natural that they chose to base their new Veritas race cars around proven BMW components. Occupying forces stipulated that new German vehicles could not exceed one liter in capacity, so they utilized existing 326 and 328 engines as a workaround. Customers supplied their own 2-liter 328 drivetrains, along with some cash, and in a few weeks collected their new BMW-Veritas, complete with a modified, rebuilt engine and sleek aerodynamic coachwork.

 

Veritas' first customer was legendary racing driver Karl Kling, who promptly won his first event in 1947, and secured the 2-liter sports car championship that same year. Soon the grids were filled with Veritas racers, and buyers pushed for road-going versions. Dietrich was happy to oblige, and in 1949 offered a series of production road cars with BMW running gear, lightweight tubular chassis, and coupe, cabriolet, or sports roadster coachwork by the well-known firm Hermann Spohn Karosseriebau. The standard Spohn bodies were distinctly attractive, and the cars offered superb performance. Unfortunately, the funding to secure long-term production proved elusive, and Veritas folded in the early 1950s. Despite their brief existence, the firm left an indelible mark on German motoring history, restoring the nation's illustrious sporting past and paving the way for Mercedes-Benz, BMW, and Porsche to carry the torch into the future.

 

The combination of Veritas and Spohn created some of the most distinct German sports cars of the period. Hermann Spohn Karosseriebau may be lesser known among traditional German coachbuilders, but their flamboyant designs are particularly memorable. Much of their earlier work focused on Maybach chassis, while later projects (through the 1950s) centered on customizing American cars belonging to US Servicemen stationed in Germany. Inspired by Harley Earl's Motorama dream cars, Spohn interpreted American trends in a particularly extravagant manner, employing giant fins, vents, and layers of chrome trim. While most of Spohn's production work with Veritas is relatively subdued, our featured car is one extraordinary exception. Chassis number 5089 started life as a standard Veritas SP90 cabriolet, purchased new by an unknown individual. Very early in its life, the car returned to Spohn, where it received extensive modifications to the customer's wishes. They created an outlandish machine combining elements of the original design with over-the-top fins and jet-age styling cues inspired by the GM Le Sabre show car. Period press reports suggest turquoise as the original color, and photos show it with Cadillac-style sombrero hub caps, wide-whites, chrome rear wheel spats, and the distinct front end treatment with the near-horizontal faux grille and faired-in headlamps.

 

According to subsequent owner R.J. Mrofka, the car belonged to a friend of his brother's, an American serviceman, who brought it to the states in the early 1950s. Mrofka purchased the Veritas from that man in 1965. Unfamiliar with the hemi-head BMW inline-six, Mrofka was unable to get the car running, so he quickly sold it to his friend Lee Hartung of Glenview, Illinois. Copies of the title and bill of sale related to that transaction are in the history file.

 

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A serial collector, Hartung spent his life in the scrap & recycling business and built an enormous collection of antiques, motorcycles, bicycles, and automobiles over the years. He parked the Veritas in his "museum," which was chock full of thousands of pieces, all carefully curated and grouped despite the overwhelming volume. Hartung sometimes shared his collection with car clubs, friends, and the occasional gawker. But he never sold anything, and nearly every piece he owned, including this Veritas, had a special place in his heart. After Mr. Hartung passed away, his collection was dispersed in 2011. The Veritas was a star attraction of the estate sale, as it remained in incredible "barn-find" condition. Despite being covered in a layer of dust from 46 years of being tucked in Hartung's barn, the car was remarkably complete and intact, wearing cream-colored paint with hints of the original turquoise showing through in places.

 

The Veritas Spohn then joined a prestigious collection of unrestored vehicles where it was meticulously preserved it returned to running condition without sacrificing the once-in-a-lifetime patina. After its carefully tended resurrection, the Spohn Veritas debuted at the 2013 Amelia Island Concours d'Elegance, in a tongue-in-cheek class of oddballs, one-offs, and unusual concepts called "What were they thinking?" Since then, it has made occasional appearances while being maintained in running order and on display in the owner’s collection.

 

Now available for the first time since leaving the Hartung Collection, the Spohn BMW-Veritas SP90 remains essentially as it was found, with a marvelous patina and brimming with character. It would make an eye-catching centerpiece to any collection of rare and unusual motorcars, and a worthy contender for preservation-class honors in concours events. It is a wonderful example of a coachbuilder experimenting with the boundaries of style, resulting in a fascinating and delightful caricature of the flamboyant 1950s Jet Age.

 

 

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