Shop Rat Posted January 30, 2005 Share Posted January 30, 2005 I know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Shoprat,I guess since I moved back over the line, I'm not considered to be one of those damnyankees anymore. After growing up in MinneNOPLACE, MinneSNOWda, I lived in Atlanta for 16 years and seemed to get along just fine with ya'll. I was tired of the blistering heat, pollution, and gridlock traffic. Couldn't leave fast enough. Come on, now... the civil war ended a long time ago. ...and what do you mean by, "WAS a cutie"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Just some friendly "ragging" going on here. My husband was born and raised in "Joysee" but does not have the accent at all. His mom and sister did because they were raised closer to "the City". He lived in Va. for a while and loved it. He has lived most of his life here in W. Va. after following his job here with what was Union Carbide. So he is a southerner in his heart. I was born and raised here.....How can I say "is" without seeing a recent photo??? All I had to go on was the photo in the magazine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 P.S. I am so sorry that I accidentally shortened your name. I thought it said Wes not West. Please accept my appologies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Green Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 West, The magazine is great and I like the direction it is heading. I see you managed to squeeze an article out of your old buddy Bob Stevens who now appears to be an editor at large again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Shoprat... No offense taken, I was also funnin. Even though I grew up near the 45th parallel, I've never thought of W.Va. as being "in the South." It's all relative, though, I guess. My wife, from Michigan, likes to say that she used to teach "in the west," meaning South Dakota. I always thought of "the west" as being a little bit "wester" than that. She's right, though. She taught on the Rose Bud Indian Reservation, and in her spare time helped round up cattle and brand them. While all I did was work in the corn fields and turkey farms on the prairie of Western Minnestota.Ron, Bob Stevens is a good guy. I was fortunate to have worked with Bob for the short time I was at Cars & Parts. I learned a lot from him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 West, W. Va. really is a mixed state of north and south. We came into being in 1863 after asking ourselves (as the recognized "Virginia" by the Union) if we could be a state. We gave ourselves permission and there you have it. Like most states our people are very different in speech patterns and way of living depending on where you are in the state. People from the south of W. Va. sound nothing like the people in the northern panhandle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Green Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 West, couldn't agree with you more regarding Bob. I sat with him at the awards banquet at Hershey and he did an article on one of my cars a few years back. I met you at Amelia Island in 2001. I don't like the way C&P handle things. Enough said. Hope to meet you in philly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex98thdrill Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Howard, you couldn't have said it better, but you may want to add "true businessman" to that list as well. I still consider myself a newcomer to AACA, but in the year that Steve has been in, the difference is just incredible. Oldscarnut has made a heck of a difference in his first year, he's done an awfull lot to promote AACA, he's saved us money, he's improved the quality of what we get with our dues money and I think the best is yet to come. At the rate that things are going, I guess the best way to sum things up are to <span style="font-weight: bold">give that man a raise.</span> Not too often, is an organization able to get blessed with someone who is gifted with the midas touch. We have been given a gift, and we'd better take care of him if we want to keep him. With the things that Steve has done in such a short time, someone, somewhere, is going to hear of what he's done and try to grab 'em away from us. Steve, I'm not out to ask for any favors, nor am I trying to be a "brown noser" but you have really done a good job for the club, and I pity the poor S.O.B. who has to come in to fill your shoes when you decide to go on to other things. You've already said that things are going to get better, but at this point, I sit and wonder how in the world can things get better? In the short time that I've known you, I'm beginning to think that the best thing that happened to AACA was when GM stopped making the Oldsmobile. From your vantage point, the end of Oldsmobile had to have been devastating. From our vantage point, it has been a blessing.West, Good job, nice stuff, and welcome aboard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 Pat, your check is in the mail! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Wow, thanks for the comments but while any short term success is nice, let's see how I do over the long term! First of all, it is not just me...It is the Board of Directors and our great staff. You win as a team and lose as a team. I am doing my best to bring my passion for AACA to the organization and to approach things in a different way than maybe was possible in the past. Times change and as a result you have different options. We need to operate AACA like a business but act like a club, if you get my drift.No need to worry about my leaving (unless they throw me out) as I had far more lucrative options before I took this job. I took it for one reason and that was to hopefully look back on my career here and feel that I may have made a positive difference for the hobby. Again, thanks for being my PR agent. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex98thdrill Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 You're welcome Steve. ....and you didn't even have to throw me in the river to say those things On a serious note, yes there is a great board too, but you have fought for a lot of things that probably wouldn't have been had GM kept making the Oldsmobile. I'm sure if Oldsmobile was still around, you'd still be working at the family business. That's why I said that the best thing that happened to AACA was when GM ended the Oldsmobile.If you can continue to show the innovations and improvements in the future like you have already done in your first year alone, the rest will speak for itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 All of us will keep working, keep LISTENING and always try to get it right for our members. There are serious concerns for the future of the hobby but I believe in my heart that if we all pull together we can lick'em!With some of you young guys jumping in an offering ideas plus the fact that some of us older folks actually have some new ideas, the future is going to be fun. I believe we will have a few shocking surprises for you in 2005. All good!BTW, my Olds dealership was not a family business. If it were, life would have been a lot easier for me. I left GM to be the Service Director of a dealership, promoted to General Manager and later bought the place. If I am proud of something in my career, it is that I worked my butt off to accomplish the success I had.Ok, enough about me in this thread. Still looks like some have not recieved their magazines. I have heard that part of it is due to some snow problems but I have not verified this fact yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 <span style="font-weight: bold">Dateline---January 31, 2005, Cheyenne, Wyoming</span> Antique Automobile magazine has arrived in Cheyenne right on time, just as I expected it would. As stated previously, it is the Jan/Feb issue and if it arrives on Jan 31st or Feb 1st. <span style="font-weight: bold">IT IS ON TIME.</span> Super publication and there are too many new goodies to begin to praise them all here, but the one that intrigued me was the last page. A listing of advertisers with the page on which their ads can be found, all in an antique setting. Neat On a different subject, that of working in a family business. It ain't always what it is cracked up to be. You have to walk a mile or two in those shoes to know how stressful and painful it can be. Nuff said.HV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 West ~ I have an extra copy of the Spring 1955 [Vol 19, No 1] issue of Antique Automobile. I would be pleased to send to you as a gift if you don't already have one.I thought you might like to have the issue that preceeded your first one by 50 years. Just let me know.Howard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted January 31, 2005 Share Posted January 31, 2005 As always Howard, there are two sides to every coin! In my former walk of life, however, there was a "running joke" about dealers sons. In many cases it was not deserved but in many others it was! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> May have been expensive, but I am glad I hopped on a plane to put that magazine in your mailbox! <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Sadly, my best friend has not received his yet, maybe the USPS can't find Beecher, Illinois. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
24T42 Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Good news and bad news from NC! My magazine came today but then I went to the eye doctor. It's been over 4 hours and my eyes are still dilated somewhat. I guess I will have to wait until tomorrow to read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Since Judy and I are individual life members with different membership numbers we get two copies. I can have one of those copies in Beecher by this time tomorrow if I drive all night. Do I need to gas up and go? HV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 I'm still looking for my copy. The mailman was kind enough to bring some bills today. I had to borrow Dad's copy so I could do an article about it in my region's newsletter that goes out Friday.Steve, I know you keep going on about all the work the board and other members do while down playing your involvement. But I think you nailed the reason for the successes so far with your comment "I am doing my best to bring my passion for AACA to the organization and to approach things in a different way than maybe was possible in the past. Times change and as a result you have different options. We need to operate AACA like a business but act like a club". It is the passion for the club and the drive to make a difference at the top level which is what we have been missing. We have had a few Presidents that I personally, felt made the extra effort to make the club better. But, they also needed others to work with them. We also had some Presidents that were just in the position. When you have that passion and drive at the top, it trickles down through the board, the chairpersons, their committees, all the way down to the members. This club has a driving force to improve itself that wasn't here when you came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Shop Rat, just to clarify it for others, those living in a little area of W. VA which juts northward into PA. Theys Yankees!! Theys north of "the line"! So you can be born in W. Va and be a Yankee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 David,Trickle down passion. I like that idea. As in anything else, those of us at the bottom of the pile have little opportunity to make a major difference. It has to flow from the top down and the change at Headquarters has started the passion flowing. I myself have all kinds of AACA Meets and Tours planned for this year, whereas over the past several years my interest has been on the wane and I had participated in only a few activities.A big difference is that Steve is driven by his passion for the AACA, NOT his own self interest. hvs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Very true Howard. And unfortunely we have had too many leaders in various positions that I believe were driven for the other reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 That is the absolute truth. And they even talk like Yankees up there. They sound just like the folks from Pa. I don't think that people from Wheeling and people from Logan can even understand each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shop Rat Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 That is the absolute truth. The people in that area of W. Va. sound just like the people from Pa. so they even sound like Yankees. I don't think that if you put someone from Wheeling and someone from Logan in a room they could understand each other. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex98thdrill Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Steve, have you heard any complaints on the new magazine? The one thing that I did miss that has been in the last few issues was the topic of judging tips. Of course the online judging concept and CJE's could remedy a lot of that stuff, this section was a good review to the judges, and good education for the members who aren't.At this point, the magazine is nice enough to where I can survive without it, but I did think that it was a nice touch. As for the Olds dealership, I thought that was a family run business. I know what you mean about people handing the business down through family. My Uncle started selling used cars in the early 60's, worked his way up to a Ford / Lincon / Mercury / Ford truck franchise, then on to Chrysler / Plymouth / Dodge as well as all of the Ford stuff and then turned everything over to my cousin. Of course then my cousin had to build this big palace for selling cars, moved the business to where the cars weren't visible to the people driving by, and because of the building, he was in over his head and couldn't make any deals so he could move the cars..... the business is now gone. My father's cousin had a Ford franchise for 50 years, he died, his daughters took it over, got to fighting over money, wanted to sell everything for big money, made some bad business moves and that business was gone in less than a year....as for the delay in the mail, last week the flags at the post office were all flying at half mast, so perhaps the mail has been delayed due to another personel shortage and they were accepting applications again .Actually I know the flags were half mast because of the Tsunami victims, but from time to time, I do like to get a disgruntled postal worker joke in when time allows . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Judging tips will be in future magazines! Not sure why it was not in this issue, offhand. It MIGHT have been that Fred was knee deep in revising the manual and judging sheets.We have had zero complaints until this morning. We have two members in the same family that strongly feel that the new magazine is horrible. 100's of emails and phone calls have said otherwise. I am quite frankly disappointed in their comments and the way they were presented. Now, this is not to say some people would like to see a minor change here or there. I am not sure you could pick up any magazine and not feel that way. We all have our personal tastes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Judging tips will be back in the next issue. I did not receive anything for the Jan-Feb issue, and that is the only reason it did not appear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Brenda Shore Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Just as an FYI - we have two separate memberships in my house (just like Howard) and we haven't received any magazines. North Carolina must be too remote for the mailman.Hopefully it will come soon.Brenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> </div></div>I am quite frankly disappointed in their comments and the way they were presented.One cannot help but be a bit suspicious of the motovation behind such a pair of communications from one family. Someone seems to have an axe to grind. Did you dull someone's axe, Steve. HV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted February 1, 2005 Share Posted February 1, 2005 Not sure Howard but since I am still "smarting" from the comments this morning I think I will get this off my chest.The <span style="font-weight: bold">OVERWHELMING</span> majority of comments of the magazine have been far better than our expectations! I had one today which really warmed my heart as the member bought a gift membership strictly because of the new magazine. The changes we have made in the magazine and elsewhere in AACA are absolutely, positively not meant to be a reflection on anyone else. Every "regime" has its own way of doing things and every leader has his own ideas. This is a natural evolution of every type of business. Clubs, businesses, charities, etc. must constantly re-invent themselves to stay up with changes in society. Change may be hard for some but it is necessary for survival. All of us in AACA are just trying to bring the best new ideas we can to the club and prevent it from "drying" up.That being said, I was shocked to get the harsh emails today from these two people. One of them was personally derogatory and I felt uncalled for. I accept that there will be differences of opinions! West and I do not see eye to eye on a small percentage of things with the magazine. It is personal taste and opinion. However, to send inflammatory emails with no background of all the reasons for the change and to not give West a chance to prove himself is rather sad. I hope members keep sending in their thoughts and criticisms. No one has been more open than me in asking for these. I have admitted in public (last column) that some of my ideas needed a little work! We will not always hit the nail on the head but we WILL do everything to rectify any problem in the best interest of the club.Ok...enough said. Beecher, North Carolina and even a person in Harrisburg have not received their magazine yet. I am not happy. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I hope we find the answer although it may come down to the local level and weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Steve, Of the three I mentioned in an earlier post (on the 28th) not getting thier copy, 1 recieved his on Saturday. The other and myself have not recieved ours yet. Maybe the mail people are holding them thinking they'll be really vaulable someday since thery're all fancied up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
29 Chandler Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Just recieved my "phone book", now I know what all the excitment is about. WOW! Why though do I have to wait a month to recieve it after the locals have. Maybe you could give those of us on the West Coast a headstart on mailing the next issue. You guys have already had a month to pick over the classifieds. It's like showing up to a swapmeet on the last day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter J.Heizmann Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Folks, I certainly can appreciate your concerns. However, this is not the first time, nor, will it be the last based upon a few years on this forum.The average delivery across the board within the good 'ole U.S. of A., is the 28th of the first month - thru - the 14th of the second month. This is based on my receipt of the AA and posts of years gone by. Patience...Regards,Peter J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrope Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 To elaborate on an earlier comment, I meet with a mostly retired group of members from the Presque Isle Region in Erie Pa and would like to report that all of the comments were extremely favorable. For too many years, I felt the magazine concentrated on cars that nobody remembered or cared about. It's good to see that we are heading in a direction that refects the complexion of the general membership. Most of our members know,or have access to, facts and figures on production, horsepower, etc. so we find it interesting to hear the story of the indivdual car-Why did you want it? How did you find it? What difficulties were encountered during restoration? How were they overcome? Articles like this can be inspiring to owners that are worried about their own limitations. As I say, It is clear you are heading in the right direction. Please keep up the good work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Mine arrived today (Feb.1)in Connecticut, VERY impressive magazine! West you have done a great job, I'll be sending you some material for future use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buicks Rule Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Steve/West,Sorry to hear you got a poison pen yesterday. I hope it's the last one. The new magazine will probably appeal to people outside AACA that have a more modern old car but never joined AACA because they thought it was for pre-war cars only, etc... That's very threatening to those folks who really wish that we could return to the hobby days of the 60's ( or 70's ).It's human nature. You can get 500 positive letters and then it's the one negative one that you remember. Try not to let the negative comments ruin your day. That's really all the person wants to do anyway.Good luck and keep up the great job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novaman Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Patience doesn't help when you're trying to right an article highlighting the changes of a magazine for your region's newsletter and you don't have yours. I had to steal Dad's in order to look at it and do the article. Newsletter goes to print today.In talking to one of the members I found out that a large percentage of our members in the county have had their's for 5 to 9 days.I know this delivery issue is something that Steve and West can't control. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex98thdrill Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Well Steve, you can't please everyone. I'd say that the change was a success. So maybe you got a few e-mails that were negative.... so what?? In your short time as Executive Director, you have done what you thought was best for the club, and for the most part, the majority has told you that your actions were for the better. If your approval rating is 98 percent, how can you go wrong? If 98 percent of the membership is happy with the changes, one would think that you have a strong chance of gaining more members to offset the 2 percent that isn't happy. When the majority is not happy, is when you'll have to start worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex98thdrill Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Steve, do you think that the guy who was complaining was the guy who got thrown in the river? I loved that story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moskowitz Posted February 2, 2005 Share Posted February 2, 2005 Pat, let's keep that story from my "youth" under wraps! The calls, emails and letters have been incredible over the last few days. Hard to get any work done but it looks like the new magazine is a big hit! It also seems to finally be arriving in certain locales. Thankfully. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R W Burgess Posted February 3, 2005 Author Share Posted February 3, 2005 Steve, Like Pat said, anybody would be crazy not to be happy with a 98% approval rate. I know a lot of people don't like change. I'm one of those people, as a matter of fact. I fight this feeling everyday as the world changes and Wayne doesn't. But, that's beside the point. The thing is, this magazine has become attractive enough to draw attention on the newsstands of America, and this direction should be now seriously considered. There's no better way to get attention for our club than to have it on every magazine rack on our country. A friend of mine brought you a magazine to look at a few weeks ago. I think we now have something very competitive to that. WaynePS, forgot, always remember Steve, "You can't always sell an Olds to a Ford person, regardless of how good the Olds is!" <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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