Guest 51Patty400 Posted December 24, 2004 Share Posted December 24, 2004 Do I need to be worried about lead based paint anywhere on the car while restoring? I am working on the horn button and the paint has a metal base to it when it flakes off.51 Patrician 400- Mark <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted December 25, 2004 Share Posted December 25, 2004 I don't nkow. Strange question. What difference does it make if it contains lead or not???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Bob A Posted January 3, 2005 Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi Mark Packard used lacquer paints and these generally did not contain lead. Oil based enamel based paints up until the 1960's used to contain lead. Unless your car had an old enamel respray the only lead you would have would be leaded body solder.However those old automotive primers more than likely contained lead. The original primer that Packard applied to bare metal probably was lead based. So if you are sanding to bare metal you may experience lead containing dust.As Albert suggests, invest in a proper mask if you plan to do large amounts of sanding. Even wood sawdust is harzardous if inhaled over long periods of time. Packard may have use enamel paints for underhood items, these much less costly. I would media blast these clean or use a liquid paint stripper on these.RegardsBob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 51Patty400 Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 Thanks Bob.I have a number of nurses in my family and i got a bunch of the N-95 masks from them. Nothing gets past these babies!- Space Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bkazmer Posted January 5, 2005 Share Posted January 5, 2005 remember than a particle protection mask does not protect against vapors/solvents Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 51Patty400 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Thanks, I didn't know that. The N-95 is a hospital mask designed to stop infectious viruses so I shouldn't have to worry about lead posioning. :-)- Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_PackardV8 Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 This lead nonsense is being blown way out of proportion. I've melted and filed and sanded lead on sheet metal to the extent my bare hands and arms were gray up to the elbos. i lived for 30 years in houses in the Detroit area taht were built back in the teens and the '20's that used LEAD pipes from the meter into the house.I hav'nt died from it yet.This lead scare nonsense started back in the '70's with the house paint companies who wanted to cheapen the cost of paint manufactureing (hey!!!! Pb is EXPENSIVE) so they came up with some foolishness about ghetto babies eating paint chips or something. This same 'scare tactic' extends to R12 and currently to r134a, the 'oil crisis', and a at least 100 other such 'claims'. All in the name of Environmental Heroism. It makes me want to puke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Harlin Posted January 6, 2005 Share Posted January 6, 2005 Packard V/8I agree 100%. Lacquer & lead was the only game in town used at all body shops, plumbers,radiator repair shops. I've been around tons of lead used at least one ton myself & I don't know of one worker dieing of lead poisoning. I was 81 last month. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 51Patty400 Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 R12 to R134 didn't make me happy. I don't care what they say, it just isn't as cold!- Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted January 7, 2005 Share Posted January 7, 2005 I had a very long discussion about R12 and 134 with one of the owners of the radiator & A/C place I've patronized for decades about it and the bottom line as to whether 134 was as good as 12 was his answer that we all recognize- when you turn off the compressor the R12 system is still cool for quite a while where the R134 turn musty warm almost immediately. 134 sucks!Mark-if you want to see a hoohaa about it's effects check out the Rants & Raves topic under bio-diesel and look at all the fruitcake comments and utter hate that was generated by forum folks. Just read down till they start the global warming BS. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 I want to install an underdash unit in my 54 Patrician as it does get a little warm in the summer being Black. I have all the parts, just have to make up some proper mounting brackets for the compressor and will be set, and it will be charged with R12, as 134a just does not remove the heat as well as 12 does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 There's no reason why you can't use R12. It's just more costly than the 134.Here's a question- what fuel grade do you use- 87-89 or 91octane? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 As far as fuel goes i have just been using Regular in the straight 8's and once the base timing is set you can always move it a bit if you have to to get rid of the ping, but as yet not had to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twitch Posted January 8, 2005 Share Posted January 8, 2005 Yes, just theorizing as such. Back then 89 octane was quite adequate octane for the compression ratios so the eternal question is whether premium actually does anything beneficial to an older engine. I am using 89 and no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 51Patty400 Posted January 9, 2005 Share Posted January 9, 2005 According to my manual, air was an option for mine. I would REALLY like to put it in. Trying to source the parts is hard. Kanter is EXPENSIVE for this kind of stuff and they dont have everything I need.- Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Bob A Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Hi MarkThe N95s are fine for particles, but will allow solvent vapours to pass through the mask. So don't use N95s for painting.Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 51Patty400 Posted January 10, 2005 Share Posted January 10, 2005 Thanks Bob. What should I use?I can barely paint a wall so I will do the prep work and send it out for painting. Unless painting is another of Alberts hidden talents :-)- Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Bob has seen quit a bit of my handy work first hand. One day he came over i was installing new cab corners on a friends pickup, also hapened to be the same day we removed about 5lbs of muck/grease& what ever of the front supension of his 56, with varsol/wirebrushed it, then power washed it. Then dried off everything painted all that had been cleaned, re greased the front end, installed the new wheel cylinders and adjusted the front brakes, on a saturday afternoon. The following weekend we did the rears, and had to make a new brake line as one had been chafing on the shock and was getting thin in one spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 51Patty400 Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 Kewl... Once I have the air filter ready, i'll run it down to you to have a look at. I think i'll also do as you suggested and cut the bottom start out and use a regular paper filter vs the oil gunk bird's nest stuff in there now.I wish winter would hurry up and get started so it can end. Spring seems so far away when you have to put your toys away when it is cold!- Mark Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Albert Posted January 11, 2005 Share Posted January 11, 2005 The oil bath is what I have on all 3 of my cars, but i do have one that uses a steel mesh on the top as well that was on the Clipper Special, but fould out the oil bath was an option as i figure it does a better job than the mesh. Maybe bring it over on day and see what we can come up with.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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