Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 7, 2004 Share Posted September 7, 2004 Hello,I'm restoring a '37 Packard 1502 Limo, which has sidemount spare tires, and I need to know what the rubber, (around the bottom of cover), parts looked like. When I got the car all the rubber parts were gone. I would like to duplicate them as close as possible. My Parts Manual doesn't show the cover parts. Any help would be appreciated. A picture would be great, if anyone knows a website or has pictures they could send. Thanks, Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Well, as usual, I see no one will even reply to a question about a pre WW2 Packard. Does anyone know of a good forum for older Packard Information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John N. Packard Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Rick, I have a 1502 limousine as well. The sidemount covers are in the loft of my garage. I'm vacationing in Myrtle Beach this week; but should be able to get some photos for you next week. This is primarily a V-8 Packard crowd.jnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WCraigH Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 <div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Well, as usual, I see no one will even reply to a question about a pre WW2 Packard. Does anyone know of a good forum for older Packard Information? </div></div>Hey, we would reply if we knew the answer. The PAC forum seems to attract more pre-WWII Q&A, but on the other hand on that forum one has to deal with hard-handed admin of the "admin". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hello, John Pictures would be Greatly Appreciated. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />I have not been able to find any pictures or discription anywhere and have not been able to find any local cars with sidemounts. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Thanks, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I know and understand, WCraigH. I'm just getting frustrated, since I've been looking long and hard for what I thought would a simple thing to find, with NO results. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for the Reply anyway, maybe John can help with pictures, <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Rick, The Packard Club forum is now up and running once again so you might try there. This forum seems to be mostly a V-8 '55-56 oriented group and a nice bunch of people. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BillP Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 You're right Dave, this is a nice mob and helpful but mostly v8 and late model. And as above, the PAC forum is user-hostile. Is there a pre-war group around (I have other than Packard pre-war cars so general group OK). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Harlin Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Rick, I'm not sure what you mean, around the bottom of cover?? Do you mean the rubber gasket around the edge of the side wall cover?? Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hello, Jack The sidemount spare-tire covers have rubber skirts at lower edges, to protect fender when removing and installing cover and to keep it from rattling against inside of fender well. There are 3 small holes (1/8") and l larger hole (3/16") at 4 bottom edges of cover pieces. I think the small holes or for rivets to attach rubber pieces but I'm not sure what the larger holes or for. (I think they are too small for rubber bumpers, (like in hood sides). The skirt may have curved around to also mount at larger holes, but not sure. I don't have any idea what the rubber skirt pieces looked like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Harlin Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Rick.L I'm not sure enough either but understand what you mean. I had a 40, with side mounts but it was different from what you described. I'll see if any club members have this model. Most of them live in the area where "Charley hit so that may be a problem for awhile. Not a very good answer, sorry. Jack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Yes, the '37 had 'C' shaped open covers and the '40 had solid side covers, which must have had different rubber at bottom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_buggboy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Rick:I have a 38 Hearse, 1601A. Look here and tell me if the sidecovers are similar to yours: www.b26marauder.com/vehicles Click on the link for the 38, and look at the pics. If its similar, I would be happy to take some close up pics etc. You might also try www.professionalcar.org as they have a bulletin board that a few older procar owners frequent. RegardsJase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Hello, Jase Man, I wish mine were made like the '38s, hinged and appears to be a one piece assembly <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> but mine are a 4 piece assembly that has to be disassembled to remove it. (outer ring, cover on outside of tire and a 2 piece cover on backside (next to hood) These pieces are all held together by the outer ring that the mirror mounts on. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> Thanks for the offer anyway, tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_buggboy Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Too bad. try the Procars board, feel free to keep in touch with me if I can be any help to you. I'm in Northern VA, email is Jase AT b26marauder.comRegardsJase Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bkazmer Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 professional cars sometimes used different sidemount covers (like the hinged variety) rather than factory covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John N. Packard Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Rick, Here is what I have found. As you stated the covers consist of four pieces each. The "C" shaped section that goes over the wheel tread has two inner pieces riveted to it. There is a rubber pad folded over the lower portion of each inner piece and held in place with two round head rivets. The pad is 4&1/4 inches long and the fold on each side is 7/8 inch high; so the pad dimensions are 4&1/4 by 1&7/8 to allow for the fold over the end of the inner piece. On the fourth (outer) piece of the wheel cover there is a rubber bumper 1 inch in diameter and 1/4 inch thick at both ends of the circular chrome strip. It is secured by a nut and molded bolt. It is similar in appearance to Restoration Specialties universal rubber bumper #990415 except that it is secured by a molded-in bolt. On this same piece on the inside edge of the inner circle are two inverted L-shaped rubber bumpers that are secured by a metal plate that is 5/8 inch long and 1/2" high. I don't find any item in my catalogs that is similar. I took 15 digital images of these items. The attached photo shows the folded rubber on the lower edge of the 3-piece cover. Send me you e-mail address and I will send you a ZIP file of all 15. Select the ones you are most interested in and I can send you images up to 3.5 megs in size for greater detail. My garage loft does not make the best photo studio!jnp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Hey, Great, John <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I didn't even know about the 1" bumpers on outside piece at chrome ring.My main questions now are about the size and shape of those 'L' shaped pieces(I may have one of those but didn't know where it went, but I'll need to get or make more) and you didn't mention what goes in the 3/16" dia. holes about 3" up from bottom of outside and inside pieces, at edges. (I think these are for small round bumpers but not sure. I see the hole in the picture you attached but there doesn't appear to be anything in yours either. Please send pictures to: konnect@visy.com I really appreciate all the help, <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Rick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 20, 2004 Share Posted September 20, 2004 Great pictures John. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> Now I understand about the 3/16" holes, I didn't realize the back pieces were riveted to outer ring. That will make it easy to get them off and on without dinking the paint somewhere. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> No I don't have any of the 'L' shaped piece (thought I had one), guess I'll just make them out of blocks of rubber. The lower pieces will be easy to make, just cut flat rubber sheet, wrap it around and rivet (I think I have the sheet and rivets already). Thanks again for the help, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest imported_Speedster Posted September 25, 2004 Share Posted September 25, 2004 Well, I got all the rubber parts made and istalled on the '37s Sidemount Covers. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />Made the 'L' shaped pieces from a block of rubber and made the lower skirts from 1/8" thick sheet. (that may be a little thicker than original, but I think it looks good anyway. I used split-rivets and washers to hold them on since it appeared that's what they used, in John's pictures. I found some 1" round rubber bumpers of the type used on inside of 'A' pillar on '37, to use also.I have been Unable to find 3/16" rivets of the type they probably used (round head with flare type brad) so I think I'll use 3/16 pop-rivets and fill the head with bondo or something like that, to make it look better. I think that would be better than aircraft type rivets, since it has to pivot a little at that joint, when removing and installing the cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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