Does anyone have any coments at the 2 year mark since 9/11?

[Guest SalG (Sal Grenci)]

What, if anyting is being done to mark the date in your area?

[ex98thdrill]

I get to be home for my first September 11th in two years.

[Amphicar BUYER]

I display my 30 star flag (1848-1851) in the atrium of work each 9/11 to remember the innocent souls lost... <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" />

My brother lost 6 of 7 co-workers when tower 2 fell on his building. Thankfully he moved here only 2 months prior.

[dennis passan]

what a beautiful flag!

we stopped work, and all went out and lowered the flag

to half mast, recited the pledge.

what a horror it must have been at the site, and to all related

to people who lost their own. it reaches far!

i give prayer to those today.

i give strength and ability to the people incharge of homeland

security, that they prevent any further happenings.

and i remove and dis-arm all people that might try anything against us

in anyway, in anyplace, and at anytime, in god's name, i pray for this!

[Guest]

Yes, I wish I were young enough to go back in and go kick some butt. I'm still angry over the attack on our country by a bunch of COWARDS! I don't imagine I'll ever stop being angry, even after we nail the leaders and the rest of the cowards. These people remind me of Viet Cong terroists, and they were cowards also. Sorry guys, its a sore subject for me.

Long live the GREATEST counrty this world has ever seen!

Siegfried.

[ex98thdrill]

Been there done that. The loyalty of the middle easterner starts and ends with the dollar. Once the dollar is gone, the loyalty is gone. Maybe it's time to change our constitution so that people from that area of the world aren't welcome here. If it creates the demise of the 7-11's and Dunkin Donuts, I'll deal with it. They've fought for thousands of years, and they'll fight for another thousand years. Once we get those responsible, get out of there, and let them have at it, and close our open doors.

[nearchoclatetown]

The biggest heros were on flight 93. I remember walking Hershey flea market that year. Only conversation anywhere was about 9-11.

[Dave@Moon]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> Does anyone have any coments at the 2 year mark since 9/11? </div></div>

I wish I could get further away than 2 years.

[Guest]

I sort of would hate to see us close our doors, but we're always there for everyone in the world, I mean the USA is always there, and we always get KICKED IN THE TEETH, for being there. Can everyone spell UNGRATEFUL? Sometimes I really wonder why we're always there, but then I stop and thing, THAT WE HAVE TO BE THERE BECAUSE WE COME FROM THE GREATEST COUNTRY THIS WORLD HAS EVER SEEN, AND EVERYONE ELSE WISHES THEY WERE HERE! Darn glad I wa born here and not somewher else. Sseeya all at Hershey.

[novaman]

Right after 9-11-01, nearly everybody was flying the American Flag. After about 6 months you started seeing tattered flags in people's yards or the little cars flags laying along the road. At the year mark I saw a few more flags being displayed again for a short time. Now, about the only ones I see are the ones that are on people's permanent flag poles in their yard.

I think too many people have really forgot the emotions that they went through on 9/11. Forgot the pain and suffering of those killed or wounded in the attacks. Forgot the feeling of vulnerability after being viscously and cowardly attacked, massacring OUR civilians to carry out their attack.

There are bunches of people that can't understand why we are in Iraq. Maybe if the TV media kept showing clips of 9/11 everyday, they might remember we are after the terriost that carry out these evil atrocities on the innocent people of the world. We the U.S. need to do it and I'm glad to see England with us, because there are too many countries that don't have the courage to stand up, and fight for what is right.

Please continue to remember our troops (and England's) that are still over there.

[Dave@Moon]

<span style="font-weight: bold">Iraq had nothing whatsoever to do with 9/11!</span> Even the White House will admit to that,.......when pushed. You don't hear it coming from them or their Press lackeys voluntarily because the impression that Sadam had something to do with 9/11 plays to their advantage. I read recently a survey that found 76% of Americans agree with the statement "Sadam Hussein was responsible for the 9/11 attacks." I'm sure a like percentage of Americans believe that old cars are being crushed for "environmental reasons". <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" />

The war in Afghanistan <span style="font-style: italic">was</span> in response to 9/11. The war in Iraq was in response (at least explicitly) to a different percieved future threat. (A perception that grows dimmer by the day, unfortunately for the U.S.) <span style="font-style: italic">In point of fact Bin Ladin and Hussein couldn't stand each other,</span> but don't expect any friend of Reagan Inc. to point that out.

Let's hope that those two are already bunk mates in hell, because once they are we can try to re-attain the respect and sympathy in the international community that as aggrieved parties we should have.

[nearchoclatetown]

Dave, as many times as I've agreed with you, this time I don't. I don't care about sympathy or respect from the world community. We feed , cloth, and finance the whole world. I've watched too many documentaries this week about our innocent people dieing on our soil. Only cowards could have pulled off a stunt like the WTC and the Pentagon in the manor they did. IMO,Sadam is just as guilty for letting that snake hibernate in his country. No one should ever have the stones to do harm on our soil. They all need to die.

[R W Burgess]

Amen, Choclate.... Let all those suckers overseas starve to death for a while. Maybe they'd appreciate our help the next time we offered it. W.

[6219_Rules]

I would only like to add...just for the sake of saying it...that we ALL get what we put into Life. While the attack made me murderous in my anger, I like to think that I can still follow the guiding principle taught to me as a child. "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you." While our response to the attack was appropriate in measure, our responsibility, not only as the current leading nation of this world, but as people requires that we live by our professed beliefs. It may be difficult beyond measure but I believe we can do it. It is why we have Free Will and the minds to reason. Choose your poison. I cannot forgive the unforgivable but I can move past it. Anything less lowers us to their level.

[Guest SalG (Sal Grenci)]

The events of 9/11 could have been a lot closer to me. By brother in the NYPD in Brooklyn raced into the area with 5 others in a van and saw the first tower go down while on the Brooklyn Bridge. He was a block and a half away when the second tower went down, he could have been closer, but he and several other worked to free people traped in a bus that the electric was out and rubble trapped the people. (He did not tell me of this until the one year mark.) He ran for his life when the dust cloud started, only stopped when he ran into the iron bars of City Hall Park. Although he sucked in a lot of dust he continued to do his best and did not make it to a hospital in Brooklyn until midnight.

I had the radio on all day Thursday as I traveled and watched TV coverage at night. I had trouble keeping a dry eye several times. To many of you it was a real bad day, to us locally, it was a bad few months. TV always had pictures of work at the site. Funerals were everywhere, people would stop and pray and cry at the sight, although they and I did not know the person.

[Dave@Moon]

<div class="ubbcode-block"><div class="ubbcode-header">Quote:</div><div class="ubbcode-body"> I don't care about sympathy or respect from the world community. We feed , cloth, and finance the whole world. </div></div>

Regardless of whether we wanted it or not, we <span style="font-style: italic">had</span> the weight of world opinion behind us,....for a while. At best our international reaction to 9/11 has made out nation appear (to many) as a spoiled, petulant debutant. The absolute inability to relate to people and their ideas (beyond a material exchange level of interaction) has left us looking silly to the world community, in which we're all stuck whether we want to or not.

(I thought FDR had dispelled the "screw everybody" school of diplomatic thought, but I guess I was wrong.)

Now we've just finished listening to our President ask for <span style="font-style: italic"><span style="font-weight: bold">an additional $87 billion</span></span> to rebuild/occupy Iraq. This is over and above the much larger figure we've already invested in defeating Bin Ladin's <span style="font-style: italic">enemy</span> in the Arab world! Bear in mind that this new figure: A, like the first <span style="font-style: italic">isn't</span> included in the projected deficit that'll beat Bush's dad's all-time record figure by about 50%; and B, presumes the cooperation and aid of all those nations we've all been so happy to otherwise disrepect.

For perspective, the entire EPA budget is less than 10% of just this $87 billion <span style="font-style: italic">increase</span>. We're all paying for these civics lessions, you know!

And how great is the country we've all devoted ourselves to? I was just about to run a Yahoo search on Sadam Hussein quotes about Bin Ladin to dispell the notion (posted on this thread) that Hussein deliberately allowed al quaeda to "hibernate" in his country. I then realized that such a search under the wonderfully titled "Patriot Act" would expose me to scrutiny by the FBI and the NSA who are monitoring for such inquiries.

Freedom.

I won't be running the Yahoo search.

[ex98thdrill]

You know Dave, we may have spent 87 Million, but think of it as an insurance policy. If it costs us 87 Million to make sure that another September 11th NEVER happens again, then it is worth every penny of that money. How many days like 9/11 do you think it would take before we spend another 87 Million? We can spend the money by rebuilding our country from terrorist attacks, or we can spend it keeping the terrorists in their own country and out of ours. Which way do you want it Dave?

9/11 has cost this country a lot of money, it is still costing us money, and it caused me to live through 8 months of death threats and mine dodging so that you can go into a high rise building a little more safer. Our government may not be doing everything perfect, but after what I've seen in my eyes, we're still better than anyone else.

[6219_Rules]

If I am not mistaken, the price is $87 Billion dollars. You make a good point. The world in which we live, and in which we partially created through our past Foriegn Policy and our general lack of socio-cultural understanding of the rest of the world's people, is getting to be a far more dangerous place. Perhaps it really is the End of Days. In any case, the terrorists have made their mark on us now as they have the rest of the civilized world. It is now our turn to fight back, and lest you think this money will keep it from happening again, you are sadly mistaken. The ante has been upped and we are the target. Violence creates violence...this will only get worse. We can do no less than the best that we can do.

[ex98thdrill]

You're right it was 87 Billion, but my fingers hit the letter two keys to the right of the "b" key. You are right that at 87 Billion we aren't done paying and we never will be. I do think that if we want to tighten security, we will have to change the constitution to become a little more selective as to who we let in. When you think about it, our forefathers created a document 216 years ago that has stood the test of time very well. The only problem is that 216 years ago the airplane and automobile weren't invented yet, and the technology in engineering didn't exist to allow them to build multi story structures, so terrorism to any serious degree really didn't exist.

Because we are so open and willing to allow people to come here, that is why we can get the wrong people here and have problems. For the most parts, we are still a very young country, yet we seem to be the ones that everyone turns to for help. With the evolution of the airplane, automobile, electricity, high rise buildings, and medical procedures that allow us all to live longer and give us a bigger population, perhaps it is time to rewrite the constituion. I'd say that after 216 years, it is time to be restored <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

.....Even Henry Ford himself couldn't make the Model 'T' forever. He had to change too!

[nearchoclatetown]

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I could not make the link work either, so I removed it. The one below works.

[R W Burgess]

Can't get the site to work, Nearchocl..!

[nearchoclatetown]

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