Sign in to follow this  
R W Burgess

My Esteemed Experienced Friends!!

Recommended Posts

By the way, our famous "Ole Man" Howard is moving this week into a new home and said he would not be back "up" until the weekend. Please everyone pray for him , so that he doesn't lose too many valuable items in the move. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> He also told me he was having some issues with the builder, so I told him I would have my bail bondsman on standby. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I'm looking forward to his responces when he comes back on. You'll never have to guess what Howard's opinion is. Wayne

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites


Benefits of AACA Membership.

Original is something that is unaltered and unrestored. Authentic is something that is restored to original specifications. Terminology can sometimes confuse people.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

When I stirred this pot I didn't mean for it to get so far from the original topic. I aggree there has to be judging, and to me it's for the information and education. To others it's for the recognition or the trophy. To each his own. To me the biggest put-down is to look at someone's car, look at them and walk away shaking your head. Not much differant than not getting a judging sheet to me. Information has to be past on. You can read 12 books written on a particular car and get 12 differant opinions of what is original. Or none of the books cover the item you need to know about. We younger or less experianced people need to find our info from the source, the older owners of original cars and people that DO know, hopefully judges. Indiana Truck, take your truck to a local cruisein sometime. My neighbor and I go all the time, he's in his late 70's, I'm not. We drive in with our 20's cars and have a good time. He sits with the cars and talks 2 wheel brakes and starter-generaters all day. I even had a well known local streetrod builder tell me he never knew they used real wood for wheels. It might be a good source of info on your truck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

You know Wayne, when you talk about grease, dust and dirt and getting points deducted, there is one thing that a sensible judge should understand...... THE EYE OFTEN REACHES FARTHER THAN WHAT THE HAND CAN REACH. If it can't be reached, it can't be cleaned. As for the judging at the local shows, I'd ignore the whiner. If he wants a trophy tell him to go back and do more work on the car, or ask that the car not be judged. Grant there may be times where justice won't be served appropriately, but then if he wants to learn more about his car and the competition, he needs to go to judging school. In the case of my father and I, we took a second at Carlisle, we both went to judging school, we both completed our apprenticeship, we attended a CJE, took our car home and did more work on the car, and we took a first place. If the individual in question doesn't want to better his car, expand his knowledge and can't accept criticism, that is no one's fault other than his own.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The one class I think is very difficult to judge is Comp. cars. I was once at a famous concors with my MK-IV. One of the judges muttered:"There's dirt under the headlight covers." and reached for his sheets. Another judge looked at him and said: "Yeah but that dirt is from LeMans..."

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

The race car classes in AACA National Events are judged by knowladgeable enthusiasts, they can tell the differance from "mint marks" and poor workmanship. One example that comes to mind is the top of an outside brake lever on an OFFY midget. The outside of the aluminum handle on top was ground flat, the result of sliding along a track on its side. The car was repaired and continued to race for several years with the ground off handle. It would have been an easy task to turn out a brand new handle during the restoration. However, this was one of many details that proved that this car was the car the owner claimed it was, since this feature showed up on all the photos taken of the car in competition after that wreck.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
Guest

Ole Man Howard is feeling a lot older after the move. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> VERY TIRED! Wayne, you can release the bailbondsman. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> We are in and mostly satisfied.

Now as to the subject of this thread, there is nothing for me to add. From where I sit, it appears that there has been plenty of discussion both pro and con on the matter of judging, as well as returning score sheets. Therefore, as a now retired judge [after 34 years], I will leave the opinionating to those who will be carrying on the AACA judging process. <img src="http://www.aaca.org/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

hvs

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this