Erska Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Here are some photos from the Ironstone Concours, Saturday, September 28, 2024. It's held at Ironstone Winery in the Northern California gold country about 100 miles east of San Francisco. The show is in its 28th year, and welcomes cars 1973 and older "in original or restored to original condition. The concours is a fundraiser for 4-H and Future Farmers of America. Photos attached: 1906 Autocar Type X Runabout 1912 International Auto Wagon 1910 Buick Racer 1920 Model T Center Door Coupe 1926 Monotrace Torpedo (French-built two wheel car) 1926 Springfield Rolls-Royce 1927 Bentley Van Den Plas Tourer 1929 Packard 645 Dietrich Dual Cowl Phaeton 12 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erska Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 A few more Ironstone photos... 1934 Pierce Arrow Silver Arrow Coupe 1937 Cadillac 452C V16 Phaeton (Al Jolson car, from National Automotive Museum, Reno, Nevada) 1936 Packard 1707 V12 Club Sedan 1948 MG TC (Class winner, 1962 Pebble Beach Concours!) 1948 Cadillac Series 62 Sedanette 1950 Allard J2SL Roadster 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erska Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 And a last group of Ironstone photos... 1953 VW Rometsch Four-Door Taxi 1960 Borgward Isabella Kombi 1963 Jaguar E-Type (low mileage, original car, recently acquired by grandson of original owner) 1950 Aston Martin DB2 1992 Chevrolet Camaro (California Highway Patrol used a few of these in the 1990s) 11 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHa Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Did you get a picture of the Mercer behind the IHC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motoringicons Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 The 1910 Buick is great! Thanks for the photos. Looks like a great day! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Very nice. The V16 is a 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Thank you for the photos- Just great. Love the blue color on the Autocar - outstanding ! And that Pierce Great Arrow is one of my favorite cars of all time, and owned by a true gentleman /enthusiast who like me also likes puppies................ I believe the Jolson Cadillac V16 is a convertible sedan. THANKS AGAIN. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dship Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 Thanks for the photos...I liked the 4 door VW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erska Posted September 29 Author Share Posted September 29 5 hours ago, AHa said: Did you get a picture of the Mercer behind the IHC? Sorry, no, but perhaps as consolation attached is a photo of an original 1922 Stutz. 4 hours ago, alsancle said: Very nice. The V16 is a 34. Yes, that was my typo to say the Jolson Cadillac is a 1937. I did take a photo of the museum sign (attached) with the car, and it says 1933. Doubtless some subtle difference from 1934. 4 hours ago, Walt G said: I believe the Jolson Cadillac V16 is a convertible sedan. Yes, it sure looks like a convertible sedan -- but the museum sign (below) says "All Weather Phaeton." Was that just a fancy name for use with the V16, or was there a real difference from a convertible sedan? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bryankazmer Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 That was GM marketing’s term for a convertible sedan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 25 minutes ago, Erska said: Sorry, no, but perhaps as consolation attached is a photo of an original 1922 Stutz. Yes, that was my typo to say the Jolson Cadillac is a 1937. I did take a photo of the museum sign (attached) with the car, and it says 1933. Doubtless some subtle difference from 1934. Yes, it sure looks like a convertible sedan -- but the museum sign (below) says "All Weather Phaeton." Was that just a fancy name for use with the V16, or was there a real difference from a convertible sedan? You are correct. It is a 33. The byplane bumpers are 34. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Skelly Posted September 29 Share Posted September 29 The French car appears to be a three-wheeler. Note the small wheel in the rear of the photo. There should be a matching one in the other rear corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramair Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 13 hours ago, AHa said: Did you get a picture of the Mercer behind the IHC? I was one of the judges of that class and even though it is probably in poor taste I took a quick photo when the engine compartment was opened. By the way at ironstone judges are not to ask a participant to open the hood on cars being judged. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 7 hours ago, ramair said: I was one of the judges of that class and even though it is probably in poor taste I took a quick photo when the engine compartment was opened. By the way at ironstone judges are not to ask a participant to open the hood on cars being judged. There was a certain big show that had the same rule. My dad always joked he wanted to bring a car with no engine and see if he could win an award. 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 That seems odd, as I would think the engine should be as much up to snuff as the rest of the car. I had a few motorcycles in Keeneland a number of years ago. One of the requirements for judging those was that they needed to be started in front of the judges. I have a 1939 BSA Gold Star that is a beast to start. I sacrificed any chance of winning anything by politely declining the start procedure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramair Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 3 hours ago, alsancle said: There was a certain big show that had the same rule. My dad always joked he wanted to bring a car with no engine and see if he could win an award. AJ I would not try to bring a car to ironstone without a engine as there is a steep driveway to reach the show field, as a matter of fact the one and two cylinder horseless carriages have to make a run at it😁 ironstone is my favorite Concours, the rules do not require the owner to be at site as the car is not started. some of the advantages of that is out of 80 or so judges many including myself, we can bring a car and have it judged while we are on the show field. Ironstone is a destination as it is off the beaten path, however it always has over 350 cars , 1973 or older, a great mix of never restored cars, home restored cars, “ Pebble Beach” cars in a fun low pressure atmosphere. What other concours can you find restored travel trailers from the 1930’s , farm tractors, commercial vehicles and a beautifully restored Packard Waterhouse Victoria. Motel room are between $100 to $200 per night , you can enter a car for a little over a $100 and if I remember right entrance tickets are about $35, heck I think you would have to go back 50 years ago to see those prices at Pebble. Ironstone is owned by an old farming family and all the proceeds go to the 4H and FFA , so these great kids are all out there helping at the show. A cute story that happened a couple years ago, one of the top awards was given to a elderly gentleman for his Hispano Suiza , it was a hot day and when it was his turn to climb the ramp he could not restart his car , so here came 5 FFA boys and they pushed that car up the ramp while the announcer talked about the car and mentioned that they were known for their silent running. I might as well finish this infomercial by mentioning that last year ironstone was listed in a book that was published whose subject matter was 50 of the greatest Concours of the world. one of the items mentioned was that ironstone has a racing event each year that is called Ragtime Racers. It is a dirt track event of mostly 1910 to 1920 cars, some open fender with no mufflers. After judging is over everyone is encouraged to take a 5 minute walk to the track and watch.my 39 Twelve on the show field 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
57Classic Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) 20 hours ago, alsancle said: You are correct. It is a 33. The byplane bumpers are 34. Not quite. Notice they are quadruplane bumpers! 1933 V16 exclusive feature. Biplane bumpers are a '34 Cadillac and LaSalle exclusive. Looks like a nice show. I think I saw the Volkswagen when they had the Rometsch display at Amelia Island a few years ago. Edited September 30 by 57Classic (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 @Grimy If this is the car I think it is? I still need to chat with him about the top! Cool car!! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 22 minutes ago, BobinVirginia said: @Grimy If this is the car I think it is? I still need to chat with him about the top! Cool car!! Yep, that belongs to our own @Bob Jacobsen and received the Best Original award. 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted September 30 Share Posted September 30 (edited) @Grimy @Bob Jacobsen That’s awesome! Congrats to Bob! Your Silver Arrow was looking great too as always. Quoting you George “next time around I’m gonna ask to be rich instead of good looking” That way I can jet-set to all these car events! Edited September 30 by BobinVirginia (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erska Posted October 1 Author Share Posted October 1 @ramair -- great comments about Ironstone Concours! I have entered a car several times (Volvo 1800E), but this year was a spectator. Ironstone is a fantastic mix of cars, comfortable venue, friendly and unpretentious. The show field at the winery is about a mile from Murphys, an old gold-rush/ranching town -- that's where the hotel/motel rooms are. Before or after the show, I recommend car-watching on Main St. in Murphys -- find a restaurant with an outdoor patio, and slowly enjoy your meal and the view! Here are a few more photos from Ironstone 2024: 1920 Pierce-Arrow Series 51 Seven Passenger Touring 1933 Chrysler CL Imperial LeBaron Phaeton 1933 Auburn 12-165 Speedster 1939 Cadillac Series 7519 "Florence Fleetwood" 1964 Porsche 356C 1971 Volvo 1800E (my car, Ironstone 2023) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobinVirginia Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 2 minutes ago, Erska said: @ramair -- great comments about Ironstone Concours! I have entered a car several times (Volvo 1800E), but this year was a spectator. Ironstone is a fantastic mix of cars, comfortable venue, friendly and unpretentious. The show field at the winery is about a mile from Murphys, an old gold-rush/ranching town -- that's where the hotel/motel rooms are. Before or after the show, I recommend car-watching on Main St. in Murphys -- find a restaurant with an outdoor patio, and slowly enjoy your meal and the view! Here are a few more photos from Ironstone 2024: 1920 Pierce-Arrow Series 51 Seven Passenger Touring 1933 Chrysler CL Imperial LeBaron Phaeton 1933 Auburn 12-165 Speedster 1939 Cadillac Series 7519 "Florence Fleetwood" 1964 Porsche 356C 1971 Volvo 1800E (my car, Ironstone 2023) That Chrysler is something I’ve never seen from the brand. Awesome car I’d love to know more about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 31 minutes ago, BobinVirginia said: That Chrysler is something I’ve never seen from the brand. Awesome car I’d love to know more about. That is a one off built for Ralph Roberts head of LeBaron. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramair Posted October 1 Share Posted October 1 (edited) On 9/30/2024 at 5:11 PM, Erska said: @ramair -- great comments about Ironstone Concours! I have entered a car several times (Volvo 1800E), but this year was a spectator. Ironstone is a fantastic mix of cars, comfortable venue, friendly and unpretentious. The show field at the winery is about a mile from Murphys, an old gold-rush/ranching town -- that's where the hotel/motel rooms are. Before or after the show, I recommend car-watching on Main St. in Murphys -- find a restaurant with an outdoor patio, and slowly enjoy your meal and the view! Here are a few more photos from Ironstone 2024: 1920 Pierce-Arrow Series 51 Seven Passenger Touring 1933 Chrysler CL Imperial LeBaron Phaeton 1933 Auburn 12-165 Speedster 1939 Cadillac Series 7519 "Florence Fleetwood" 1964 Porsche 356C 1971 Volvo 1800E (my car, Ironstone 2023) The 1920 Pierce belongs to a good friend of mine, he painted it about 14 years ago and built a complete top as it was a car with a typical twenties aftermarket “California top”. It won 1st in class even though my friend drives it on long tours, I have ridden and have driven with him covering several thousand miles, it’s not a trailer queen, it’s a dual valve and run they do! By the way the paint is flawless, The 1924 Pierce arrow next to it has an interesting story, the owner who is up in years decided to enter it at pebble in the Pierce class. The car had a old restoration on it , when he got it accepted he pretty much took it apart himself and cleaned ,painted and polished everything and put it back together, he brought the car to pebble about three years ago and he got a third in class, he might of got a second in class but his amp meter needle did not swing to charge when revved up. I was there that day and he was so happy and I was so impressed. Regularly we hear that Pebble is for millionaire’s and here is a gentleman that proves that others can play in the sandbox, way to go “Tony”, Edited October 2 by ramair Typo (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Studemax Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 So the Monotrace is in running condition, not just on display? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted October 2 Share Posted October 2 (edited) I keep wanting to make it to ironstone, but never have. Maybe next year. Thanks for the photos! Edited October 2 by 1935Packard (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
69merc Posted Wednesday at 12:27 PM Share Posted Wednesday at 12:27 PM On 9/29/2024 at 4:23 PM, Erska said: Yes, that was my typo to say the Jolson Cadillac is a 1937. I did take a photo of the museum sign (attached) with the car, and it says 1933. Doubtless some subtle difference from 1934. Glad you said that; I thought that looked pretty old fashioned for a '37... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erska Posted Wednesday at 06:13 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 06:13 PM 13 hours ago, Studemax said: So the Monotrace is in running condition, not just on display? I'm not sure if it runs. It seems like everything else at Ironstone moves under its own power, but maybe an exception was made for such a rare vehicle. Attached is a photo of the Monotrace sign. Note top speed was 50 mph -- yikes! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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