Source for "Hogs Hair" carpet material

[48Super]

Does anyone still supply hogs hair carpet material today? I contacted SMS and was told that they don't have it and it hasn't been made in years. 

Is there anything else that is similar in appearance?

[drhach]

Just curious what year and model this is intended for. I've heard of hog's hair brushes. I didn't know they carpet out of them too. 

[48Super]

The carpet material is actually made from wool, I believe. I think it got the "hogs hair" name because the short, stiff fibers resembled hogs hair. The project I need this material for is non-automotive. I am involved in the restoration of an 1898 trolley at the Baltimore Streetcar museum and the material I'm looking for was originally used as seat upholstery.

[jpage]

That seems to just another "antique" item that is fast going by the wayside! What has been available might have too long a nap for your use. Do you think you could substitute a mohair type fabric? Just curious, how much where you looking for?

[48Super]

The original seat material has a very short nap and what looks like a burlap backing. I'd like to find something that has a similar appearance. It seems most available carpet materials have a loop or square knot looking nap. The trolley has (2) 20' long longitudinal seats so I'm going to need a lot of material. 

About 30 years ago, I restored a 1948 Buick convertible and that car had "hogs hair" carpeting which looked really close to what I need now. Back then, I had no trouble finding a correct replacement.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[jpage]

Yep, that's the hogs hair! I'm afraid that you may have a hunt on your hands. You might try searching English companies, you might get lucky. I'd also expect that it could get pricey! Good hunting!

[bryankazmer]

I don’t know if this will be close enough, but I used an indoor/outdoor material from a DYI store to replace old hogshair. It’s not identical, but similar and inexpensive

[Tom C]

I think today’s remake of that is called Hargarn Wool. Check it out and see what you think.

[drhach]

Thanks for the feedback. Part of the reason I asked was because I have a 42 with what at least looks like age-appropriate carpet, probably original. When you used that term, my ears perked up because I would describe the texture as such but couldn't really find anyone who knew what I was talking about. I thought maybe the coarseness of it was what was left and that it wasn't originally like that. That doesn't help your cause, but you helped explain something for me. So, thanks for that. 

 

Regarding your rail car search, have you tired these guys( Illinois Railway Museum in Union, Illinois - A Museum in Motion (irm.org) )? I was there with my Son a couple of weeks ago. They claim they're the largest rail museum in North America. They have a lot of restored cars, maybe they would know of a resource for you. 

 

 

Regards,

Dan 

[Tom C]

Check out RoadWorksAuto.com. Have them send you a sample. Good luck !

[Tom C]

I forgot to mention that they use the term “hogs hair” in the description of hargarn wool.

[Steve Braverman]

This is close,

https://vicsupholsterysupply.com/collections/materials/german-wool-squareweave-carpet

[drhach]

Found these guys too

 

AutoMat Customizing & Restoration - Home Page (autointeriors.biz)

 

 

 

[E_Johnson]

Wilton Wool I, II, or III carpet might be a good match for what you need.

For example:
https://gahh.com/materials/carpet/carpet-wilton-wool-iii-605-rust-42-wide

https://gahh.com/materials/carpet/carpet-wilton-wool-i-904-red-40-wide

https://gahh.com/materials/carpet

 

[48Super]

Thanks for all the helpful leads. The Hargon Wool material from GAHH Automotive looks especially promising. 

[60FlatTop]

Sometimes you can find vintage clothing made of similar material. A coat can provide quite a bit and prices aren't bad.

 

I wanted something special for the back floor of my big BMW. A vintage mouton coat was just the thing for a nice carpet.

[John_Mc]

Hog’s Hair was (and still might be) a common underpayment for use with finest woven wool carpets, whether they be Wintons, Axminsters or of Velvet construction.  To my knowledge, it was never used as face fiber material.

After 40 years in the flooring business, I can say that in THINK it still might available through certain commercial distributors.  People who specify or install carpets in casinos, hi level corporate, etc.  Hog’s Hair is fantastic stuff, very dimensionally stable, low burn rates and high level sound proofing.  It ain’t cheap, but it’s natural and it works.

what part of the country are you?  I might be able to locate a roll for you.  Call me if you wish, 847-997-9944