West Peterson Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 3 hours ago, alsancle said: Most valuable car in the world? Not from what I've heard. Europeans question its provenance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 36 minutes ago, 34LaSalleClubSedan said: Live Steam the Awards with the link below. Starts at 1:15 Pacific time. Enjoy Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance Home Page Amazing we can get it through Youtube on a 75" .... Thanks for posting the link 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 37 minutes ago, West Peterson said: Not from what I've heard. Europeans question its provenance. West, I believe 100% real. period pictures exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 1 hour ago, g-g-g0 said: And for us that don’t know, what is this and why might it be the most valuable car in the world? Appreciate your comments!! https://paulrussell.com/rPortfolio/mercedes-benz/30_SSK/ 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 AJ, Ed, et al, Allow me to add my "Thank You" for the wonderful photos and insightful commentaries over these events and the cars that make the big show so special! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted August 20, 2023 Share Posted August 20, 2023 6 hours ago, alsancle said: Most valuable car in the world? What else would be? Old 16? Ralph Lauren's other car, the Bugatti 57SC? A Bugaiit Royale? The Whittel Weyman Duesenberg at the same show? So many choices... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) It’s a long crazy day and I’m still on the field. We managed a pretty nice trophy. Best Rolls Royce. Fun day on the green. Edited August 21, 2023 by edinmass (see edit history) 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Milburn Drysdale Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Congratulations Ed! You are the best. You said from the start the competition was tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I watched the last few awards. There were a LOT of amazing looking cars. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrData Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Congratulations Ed and, echoing others, thanks for your generous sharing of the beautiful,and rare cars you encounter on your Best Coast trip. Cheers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Congrats, @edinmass Looking for your safe return Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 5 hours ago, edinmass said: We managed a pretty nice trophy. Best Rolls Royce. Fun day on the green. Congratulations! Considering some of the other RRs seen in photos, that sounds like quite an accomplishment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 A few more photos, two at a time. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1935Packard Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Don’t kno how many fans of early Porsches there are here, but I’ve never seen a Gmund coupe this close up (one of the first 50 or so of the make). 6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wayne sheldon Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, 1935Packard said: Don’t kno how many fans of early Porsches there are here, but I’ve never seen a Gmund coupe this close up (one of the first 50 or so of the make). I may make it known often that I begin losing interest in collector cars after around the late 1920s? And I have commented several times that I much prefer the Duesenberg model "A" over anything in the "J" series! However, even I do appreciate significant landmark models of popular cars throughout automotive history. So, in spite of the fact I will likely never own any Porsche (although I am sure I would enjoy driving one if I had one?), mainly because I would never spend that much money for a car I don't really want? I do find that car interesting to look at and do appreciate its significance. Thank you for posting those photos! Also thank you for posting the other semi-modern collector car (1930s!) photos from Pebble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, wayne sheldon said: I may make it known often that I begin losing interest in collector cars after around the late 1920s? And I have commented several times that I much prefer the Duesenberg model "A" over anything in the "J" series! However, even I do appreciate significant landmark models of popular cars throughout automotive history. So, in spite of the fact I will likely never own any Porsche (although I am sure I would enjoy driving one if I had one?), mainly because I would never spend that much money for a car I don't really want? I do find that car interesting to look at and do appreciate its significance. Thank you for posting those photos! Also thank you for posting the other semi-modern collector car (1930s!) photos from Pebble. Being a Porsche fan, for me a Gmund coupe is a treat to see; about 30 are left of the 50 or so made. It's instantly recognizable as a Porsche, with several design elements that have stayed with the marque for almost 75 years. Really cool to see. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ericmac Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I have to reiterate how much I appreciate the photos. It is a treat being allowed to "come for the ride." Congratulations to Ed on a big win. Did anyone else have receive any awards? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 (edited) Thanks to all for the nice thoughts. I would say the level of cars this year was higher than I ever have seen before. It’s hard to describe the insane level of stuff there. Want to see 30 Mercedes pre war best of the best……just look at the two classes, the Fagoni display……..over the top. Big brass, post war Italian stuff………..endless. As usual there were ten to fifteen cars you have never seen before, 50’s dream cars and prototypes. Walking around you just casually walk past cars that could win best of show almost anywhere. Example……..a V-16 Cadillac is like a Toyota Prius and seems almost common and expected. The crowd seemed the heaviest of the last decade. I do sense slight and subtle changes. Nothing negative in the sense of a downhill slide or lessening of the event……….but an evolution with more modern manufacturers looking to get their product placement in the public eye. I guess the term more commercial and less “old school” car show. Had a handful of people come up to me from the forum and say hello…….always a highlight of my day. Unfortunately while on the field I’m working and my time is limited to chat, so if I seemed rushed or occupied please remember we all have a boss and commitments to keep. It’s a high pressure day when your competing on the 18th green. My day started at 3:30 am and I got back to my room at 7:15, with no food or bathroom breaks……..pushed through the whole day just on fluids. Typical big show standing by our car for hours on end. I will say the day went by so fast it was head spinning. From the time I finished wiping down the car after we placed it, I blinked my eyes and it was 2pm and cars were going over the ramp. It literally went by in a flash. Thanks to all for posting photos……..and I am still on the road for 10 days to attend another Concours. I will continue to post photos of collections that allow them along the way. The storm and quake in SoCal will alter plans for the next 48 hours. Best, Ed. Edited August 21, 2023 by edinmass (see edit history) 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yachtflame Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Ed, it’s freak’n 4:15 out there!! When do you sleep? Or are you still dreaming of trophies and shiny cars? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 16 hours ago, g-g-g0 said: And for us that don’t know, what is this and why might it be the most valuable car in the world? Appreciate your comments!! Interesting……..that car wouldn’t be my pick for that category. I have no skin in the game for most valuable car in the world, just take a look at my Model T. I’m fairly certain it’s impossible to declare any one particular car the most valuable, only because of the pre war/post war category. Also fake numbers being tossed around in what May or may not be a true transaction. My guess right now is the late Alfa’s are the top of the market in terms of real money……IE true numbers refused for the cars. I have heard of substantiated offers on a particular car in the 90’s. Who knows……once a car is valued over 10 million the total net worth of the purchaser is so big that the cars value is a rounding error on their balance sheet. Prices at the auctions this year reflected two things……..condition- many of the “low” numbers were related to cosmetic condition that wasn’t readily seen in photos…….very common. Also, this year its obvious provenance is still driving the best cars. Photos and history from new are almost a requirement today to get all the money for a car. Any black mark on a history in print or rumor mail cut it off at the knees. I only saw three or four bargains at the auctions this year……..prices accurately represented what was offered. I did miss one car that I would have gladly paid for and taken home……….and I considered it a steal. The yellow Loco at Gooding’s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 21, 2023 Author Share Posted August 21, 2023 16 minutes ago, yachtflame said: Ed, it’s freak’n 4:15 out there!! When do you sleep? Or are you still dreaming of trophies and shiny cars? Loading out the truck for LA, and catching up on emails and calls. Believe it or not, collection manager is actually a job description. Lots of perks and benefits………..and a few downsides. At Pebble there are no regular hours or mandatory breaks while working. Pursuing excellence is a 24 hour endeavor. Fact is it will be 60-80 hour weeks from now till late October. I can’t complain…….if you saw my itinerary you wouldn’t feel sorry for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 I've enjoyed following this thread, especially when one of "our own" was in the hunt, congrats edinmass for your team's well deserved win. I also watched some of the live stream, amazing cars. I think of the cars in 2 categories equivalent to Cabin Cruisers and Speedboats. The Cabin Cruisers are and were meant to be large, luxurious, expensive, superlatively detailed and maintained, and clearly with snob/money appeal. The Speedboats on the other hand were for racing and handling the water conditions, with few creature comforts, but lots of pure engineering and attention to purpose. The latter are by far my preference. Of the 4 finalists (2 Mercedes, a Delahaye and an Alfa Romeo Roadster), the Alfa was my choice. I often think there should be 2 BOS, one for the yachts, one for the road cars/racers, though to pick between the 2, the nature of the judging panel likely makes the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 Ed, A.J., 1935Packard et al, thanks for taking us along for the ride, giving us a glimpse at this automotive art gallery Brigadoon. Truly an embarrassment of automotive riches. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 @1935Packard, your photography is superb! I haven't seen color saturation like that since Kodachrome--what equipment are you using? I'm sure you had to wait 10 minutes to get each of the shots. Many thanks for your outstanding coverage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkhammer Posted August 21, 2023 Share Posted August 21, 2023 3 hours ago, 58L-Y8 said: Ed, A.J., 1935Packard et al, thanks for taking us along for the ride, giving us a glimpse at this automotive art gallery Brigadoon. X2 -Thanks for letting me come along for the ride!! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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