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edinmass Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 All others are invited to post here…. Ed 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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alsancle Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Seven passenger ascot. Something I’ve never seen before. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Matt Harwood Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 34 minutes ago, alsancle said: Reading between the lines, it appears that this is a Duesenberg conjured from nothingness. Are they optimistic on the pricing or is that the going rate even for a "bitsa?" Not that I wouldn't happily own it and drive it into the ground. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve_Mack_CT Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 The Packard Speedster sounds like a Bitsa as well. But still... The MB Ponton coupe mixing it up with big stuff is pretty cool. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-g-g0 Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, alsancle said: What is this? Thanks for identifying. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 I was going to say the same thing about the Duesenberg. Based on the expected price, we'll have to assume it's "floor sweepings." The Packard Speedster as well has been built up from parts. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Matt Harwood said: Reading between the lines, it appears that this is a Duesenberg conjured from nothingness. Are they optimistic on the pricing or is that the going rate even for a "bitsa?" Not that I wouldn't happily own it and drive it into the ground. The auction description was interesting. Yes, it's a bitsa, but it's a bitsa made mostly of authentic Duesenberg parts, which distinguishes it. https://www.bonhams.com/auction/28011/lot/27P/1932-duesenberg-model-j-sweep-panel-dual-cowl-phaeton-chassis-no-2841-engine-no-j-474-see-text/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hemi Joel Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, alsancle said: The 6 speed is very interesting. That trans has 2 overdrive gears. I bet that is a joy on the freeway. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old car fan Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 How many auction cars/ show cars could make it 20 miles down the road. Not many I would guess. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 Fun with our driver……. 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zepher Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 Notice Ed is just giving directions and not getting his hands dirty. That's how the pros do it. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 16, 2023 Share Posted August 16, 2023 2 hours ago, old car fan said: How many auction cars/ show cars could make it 20 miles down the road. Not many I would guess. Whenever someone says they bought their car at auction (people seem especially proud of buying at Barrett-Jackson for some reason) I expect the car to be 20% crappier than they say it is. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 16, 2023 Author Share Posted August 16, 2023 3 minutes ago, Matt Harwood said: Whenever someone says they bought their car at auction (people seem especially proud of buying at Barrett-Jackson for some reason) I expect the car to be 20% crappier than they say it is. You’re way off……….50% minimum. 😎 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 5 hours ago, g-g-g0 said: What is this? Thanks for identifying. Lorraine-Dietrich aero engines special 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Woolf Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 7 hours ago, edinmass said: The American Underslung is one of the best of the marque that still exists. It is a known car with history from new. The Mercer and Lozier also cars with excellent provenance and have been owned by one person for decades. There are a number of outstanding brass cars for sale at Pebble this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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edinmass Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 Two down four to go, two days in…. The boys are taking lessons from the sensei…… 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Roth Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 3 hours ago, edinmass said: You’re way off……….50% minimum. 😎 Years ago my cousin, a dedicated street-rodder who wanted an origina AACA-type car (whom I hadn't seen in 50 years), went to a Scottsdale Barrett-Jackson and bought a red 1957 Chevy Bel-air convertible to be able to drive a VMCCA Western National Tour We met him there with our 1941 Cadillac. It was visually beautiful, and he trailered it from west Texas to the tour an hour west of San Antonio. I spent a fair part of the tour trying to help keep it running. Good thing he only paid $120K plus fees, commissions, transport, taxes, etc. Next time, he bought a Caddy ElDorado Convertible, I think from Mecom with about the same success. I worked on that one after he trailered it to Florida for an AACA tour. I agree with 50% as a base line ! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-g-g0 Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 1 hour ago, alsancle said: Lorraine-Dietrich aero engines special Thank you Alsancle for identifying this vehicle!!!! Much appreciated! It is a BEAST!!!! Appreciate you helping an 83 yr oil old novice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DGPoff Posted August 17, 2023 Share Posted August 17, 2023 Ed, Most capable pre16 car for a Transcon? anything close? thanks for the input! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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edinmass Posted August 17, 2023 Author Share Posted August 17, 2023 26 minutes ago, DGPoff said: Ed, Most capable pre16 car for a Transcon? anything close? thanks for the input! I didn’t get a chance to see it yet…….a very respected early car guy said it makes everything he has ever touched seem like a toy. And he has fantastic stuff………. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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