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1963 Oldsmobile Jetfire 4 speed project


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Just got home from the 1300 mile trip to get my next Jetfire project. This is going to be a short term project. The goal is to make it a road worthy reliable car. I will restore most everything under the hood. I want it to look very nice there as that is the main draw to these cars. Other than that, I will just be detailing and polishing as much as possible. All the interior will come out and be cleaned. I understand the seat covers are backordered for 6 months or longer. For now I will clean these and use them. 

 

The carpet is nice enough that I will just recolor it and reuse it. The replacement carpets for these cars are not very good and then the 4 speed adds a larger hump and there are no carpets for that. 

 

The guy I got it from has not heard it run since around 1992 and wanted to hear it run again. I took some tools and got it to fire up a few times on just a carburetor full of gas so he could hear it run again. 

 

This is not an original paint car but it does not appear to have any bad body work and there really is no rust that is serious anyplace. One place on the passenger inner fenderwell but it is an easy fix. The floor pans are fantastic! 

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I bought this car with no keys. I was hoping that there were numbers on the lock cylinders to get some made. Well, On the way home we were at a gas station and I was looking around the car. I noticed something in the fuel door. I pull it out and what do you know!!!!! My lucky day.

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Pulled the engine, transmission and front suspension out today. Tomorrow I will do a compression test and a leak down test. At this point I do not plan to rebuild the engine. Just clean, detail, paint pieces and make reliable. I will be replacing the gaskets as well. May have to pull the lifters apart and clean them as well. 

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7 hours ago, MERRILL said:

Now that is the way, remove everything in one assembly, the reverse of the way the factory did assembly.

This will make life a lot easier to repair, clean and paint !!

Merrill

For sure. I see people struggle pulling just the engine on these cars because it is a tight fit coming out the top. For the same amount of struggle you can have it all out the bottom but now you have easy access to everything. I have a lift at home and a crane at work so it makes it even easier for me but even if I had to block it up with jacks and a cherry picker I would still do it this way. 

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I don’t want to sound like a you know what, but you shouldn’t use tie down straps for lifting. They aren’t designed for that. Lifting straps aren’t that expensive and are so much safer. Proper rigging should be a must. I’ve seen it first hand when things have gone wrong. We seem to say it’s not going to happen to me. It might not this time, but it will at some point. 
 

 

I do like your find. Mike

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2 hours ago, Mike "Hubbie" Stearns said:

I don’t want to sound like a you know what, but you shouldn’t use tie down straps for lifting. They aren’t designed for that. Lifting straps aren’t that expensive and are so much safer. Proper rigging should be a must. I’ve seen it first hand when things have gone wrong. We seem to say it’s not going to happen to me. It might not this time, but it will at some point. 
 

 

I do like your find. Mike

I totally understand but it is only lifting about 600 lbs. The front of the car does not weigh anything without the engine and suspension. each of the two straps are 2000 rating so 4000 total. I would typically use something else but I left it at home. I doubled them up for safety but one would have made it. 

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I was not going to pull the heads but decided to reseal the valves. There is zero compression groove at the tops of the cylinders. I will clean it all up and reseal the heads and start putting it back together. I still need to pull the timing cover. I will put a new timing set in it. 

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7 hours ago, jensenracing77 said:

I totally understand but it is only lifting about 600 lbs. The front of the car does not weigh anything without the engine and suspension. each of the two straps are 2000 rating so 4000 total. I would typically use something else but I left it at home. I doubled them up for safety but one would have made it. 

I do understand, but I don’t want to see anyone get hurt or worse. I just don’t do it. I do all lifting as safe as possible. Mike

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Pulled the heads apart and done a light cleaning of the heads. The valve guides are fantastic! I will clean up the valves tomorrow and reseal them. Hopefully they can just be lapped in. Without cleaning them up, so far they look perfectly fine and no wear.

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Cleaning on the engine some. I pulled the cam to find more wear than expected. I had already resealed the valves and now have to replace the cam so it would be silly to not just do the entire thing. Called Mark at D&D aluminum V-8 and he had the cam, lifters, rings and timing set all in stock. So I will be doing a full rebuild now. 

 

I do have some pieces and parts bead blasted and painted. 

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So this car was already a unibody car, that’s cool. Got to love that view underneath the hood. Surprised none of the Corvair guys have chimed in with the whole “Which came first, the chicken or the egg” thing! Got to give the fellow olds owner some love. Olds never gets the respect it should get.

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On 2/18/2023 at 10:32 AM, chistech said:

So this car was already a unibody car, that’s cool. Got to love that view underneath the hood. Surprised none of the Corvair guys have chimed in with the whole “Which came first, the chicken or the egg” thing! Got to give the fellow olds owner some love. Olds never gets the respect it should get.

lol, I actually like the back and forth between the two models. I think it brings them both more attention. In the end it don't much matter what one was first, both were ahead of their time. That said, Oldsmobile was first, lol 

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Fresh parts washing fluid and the block is apart. Waiting on my parts to come in and will take the block to the machine shop to have a proper hone job done. It will get moly rings so I would rather not do it by hand. I am sure I would be fine with a fine 3 finger hone but I figure at this point, why... I have a terrible time getting rope seals to seal proper and there is no two piece available so I am seriously thinking about letting them install the crank. 

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None of the machine shops could get me in for a month or two so I honed it myself. Started with 220 and went to 400. The cylinders turned out fantastic! Got it cleaned up but still need to clean it with soap and water and blow it dry. Hope to have the engine together by Saturday nigh. 

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Done the final cleaning of the block yesterday. Blew it as dry as I could and then set it on the wood stove to fully dry. Also have the rocker shafts cleaned up. It seams the shafts are always full of sludge no matter how well the engine was taken care of. I started cleaning the ring grooves in the pistons tonight and will finish that tomorrow and then do the final cleaning of the pistons and rods. Would like to install the rings tomorrow night as well. Not sure it will happen but I plan to have this engine done Saturday before I leave for a mens meeting at Church at 6 pm. I suppose I may have to finish Sunday after Church.

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Got the oil pump and oil pan on. Added oil and primed the pump till oil come out all the rockers. Working on the intake manifold and getting it ready. Bead blasted the intake bolts but need to phosphate those before I install it. Hope to do that tomorrow on lunch and put the intake on when I get home. Still waiting on the balancer to come back.

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I picked up this turbo a couple years back. it had been rebuilt by a place in Canada in 1984. I have seen some really junk rebuilds on these things before but I chanced it anyway. I pulled it apart and to my surprise, it was fantastic inside! They must have rebuilt it when the seal was still available from TRW because it is new and not a cobbled together aftermarket one. I repainted it to look more original and put most of it back together. Still need to put a controller together for it. The carburetor and fluid injection I had already built and had on my 62 4 speed car before I took that car apart to restore it. This "was" going to be the new carburetor setup for that car but then decided to do another one that would look even better for the 62. So with this carburetor sitting around and this turbo sitting around, I made a full system out of it. 

 

 

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I would give a left to have one of those turbo 4 epeed Olds.WOW! How many cubes is the engine? Flat tops probably put the compression up good for back in the day?

 

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46 minutes ago, Nailbitten said:

I would give a left to have one of those turbo 4 epeed Olds.WOW! How many cubes is the engine? Flat tops probably put the compression up good for back in the day?

 

It is a 215 aluminum V-8. With the turbo it was 215 HP and 301 torque. Sadly, the stock cam is not available in any form. The cam was worn so I had to put a higher performance cam in it. It is nothing crazy at all but I would have preferred stock. The factory compression is 10.25 and I went to a slightly thicker head gasket. Should be closer to 10.0 compression. With the 6.5 PSI boost, it has to have the factory water injection working. 

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2 hours ago, jensenracing77 said:

It is a 215 aluminum V-8. With the turbo it was 215 HP and 301 torque. Sadly, the stock cam is not available in any form. The cam was worn so I had to put a higher performance cam in it. It is nothing crazy at all but I would have preferred stock. The factory compression is 10.25 and I went to a slightly thicker head gasket. Should be closer to 10.0 compression. With the 6.5 PSI boost, it has to have the factory water injection working. 

That's too cool.Goodluck with ur resto

 

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Getting there. Will start working on repainting under the hood soon. Get it all back together and then go to the brakes and rear end gear oil. Seat covers are still backordered so putting that together will likely be last. 

 

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