Fleetwood Meadow Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I’m losing my mind trying to find rear brake drums for the 1951 Dodge Meadowbrook. They came with a spindle hub for the axle that was held by the lugs. With the hub removed I need to find a new brake drum. It’s 11”x2”, 5 lug at 4.25” diameter. I can’t find any. Any help would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 I think that guy that goes by mobilparts in NY might sell them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 hour ago, TerryB said: I think that guy that goes by mobilparts in NY might sell them. Here is his contact number: Always best to simply call me --- 516 - 485 - 1935... Craig ...... Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetwood Meadow Posted November 11, 2022 Author Share Posted November 11, 2022 In 2019 he posted on here saying he was selling everything off due to health reasons. Shows he was on here last in August. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Fleetwood Meadow said: In 2019 he posted on here saying he was selling everything off due to health reasons. Shows he was on here last in August. He missed Carlisle and Hershey this year due to illness. He did not sell out back then but his recent illness has slowed his time to respond for parts as reported by another forum member. Edited November 12, 2022 by TerryB (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Fleetwood Meadow said: I need to find a new brake drum. It’s 11”x2”, 5 lug at 4.25” diameter. I can’t find any. You might want to double check the bolt pattern diameter, which if I'm not mistaken, should be 5 on 4.5" most MoPar passenger cars of that period. The way you're measuring isn't quite correct. It can be used as a reference, but you need to add about 1/4" to come up with a centerline for the diameter of a full circular pattern. Edited November 12, 2022 by TTR (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetwood Meadow Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) Based on this I was measuring for a 4, 6, or 8bolt pattern. Based on the measurement I made in the picture and this guide is it showing 4.5”? It looks like it to me. Edited November 12, 2022 by Fleetwood Meadow (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, Fleetwood Meadow said: Based on this I was measuring for a 4, 6, or 8bolt pattern. Based on the measurement I made in the picture and this guide is it showing 4.5”? It looks like it to me. If you used this ^ "guide", how did you come up with 4.25" in your OP ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Guide or no guide, it's 4.5". 5 on 4.25" is mid 30s Chevrolet Standard, Volvo 164, and practically nothing else. Odds are good you could go your whole life without seeing it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fleetwood Meadow Posted November 12, 2022 Author Share Posted November 12, 2022 I did not use that guide originally. I had always been taught that bolt diameter was center to center. Nobody mentioned that 5 bolt was an exception. 4.25” didn’t make any sense to me either, that’s why I finally had to post it here to figure this out. With it being 4.5” I can find a drum much more easily. Just had to talk it out because the local auto stores were clueless. If it wasn’t in their system they didn’t know and didn’t bother to even try to measure it for me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 It's not so much that 5 lug is different, it's just a pain to measure. The measurement is the circle around which the holes are placed. With 4, 6, or 8 lug if you measure between 2 studs you are on the circle. With 5 lug (or 3 lug) you are not and have to guess where the circle is. There is always some fudge factor method like the one in that chart adding half the diameter of a stud, or adding 1/4" to a line between 2 studs, etc. etc.. It's super easy to get wrong because there is nothing at one of the points you are measuring to. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 These work great and are accurate. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Yes, but why buy those when the internet provides the answer 5 lugs? Just measure from the center of one bolt to the outside of one of the opposite bolts. https://www.cokertire.com/bolt-pattern 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerczak Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Have you tried looking at other MOPARS - Dodge, Chrysler, Plymouth, Desotos of the same year to find a good one to rebuild? They all look very similar in the early 50's and I didn't know if they really did any mechanical differences between models. When I needed drums for my Plymouth, I posted on the Plymouth Owners Club and someone had changed out their rear-axle to go faster with higher gears so they had the drums available (and they were in good shape). You might ask guys who are parting out cars to see if they have a good drum set. Here is one listed on facebook. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/687217782832309/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A412d86a5-535f-4de3-8af4-16719d6d128e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerczak Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 Here is a 49 Dodge being parting out too. https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/424363816563426/?hoisted=false&ref=search&referral_code=null&referral_story_type=post&tracking=browse_serp%3A412d86a5-535f-4de3-8af4-16719d6d128e Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete O Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 If you're looking for new drums because yours have been cut too thin, there are services out there that reline brake drums. I googled "brake drum relining services" and a couple came up. Here's one: https://www.jgrelining.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 @Larry Schramm These work great and are accurate. Larry, what company made the bolt circle plastic gauges? Thank You in Advance, Bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted November 13, 2022 Share Posted November 13, 2022 3 hours ago, NailheadBob said: Larry, what company made the bolt circle plastic gauges? Thank You in Advance, Bob Here ya go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank DuVal Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 No longer available new. https://www.gorilla-auto.com/about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Schramm Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Frank DuVal said: No longer available new. https://www.gorilla-auto.com/about You might just give them a call and see if they have them, but do not list them on their website? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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