Zakman Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Hello, I need to get smart, i just bought 1937 Plymouth Woody and not sure which Plymouth repair manual would give me the most info to restore this car along with its engine and transmission. Car was purchased with engine and tranny removed and everything that goes onto the motor. So looking for guidance on finding a good repair manual for the car and motor. Any help would be appreciated. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 What is the motor serial number? I think Plymouth called them commercial cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Check this out. It says the 1937 like yours was built on a 1937 PT50 truck chassis. https://www.allpar.com/d3/history/plymouth/wagons.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakman Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, TerryB said: What is the motor serial number? I think Plymouth called them commercial cars. Thanks Terry- The engine number is T510 14638 the best i can make out. Zak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zakman Posted September 9, 2022 Author Share Posted September 9, 2022 Thanks again for finding all this info Very much appreciated and will help me along with getting it back on the road again. I know that i will be needing some engine odds and ends. For one, missing about 1/2 of the brass exhaust/intake nuts and the water fitting that is located on the back of the cyl head just above the water temp sensor. Zak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 The original Plymouth engine for your car should begin with at least a “P” and PT if it’s the 1937 truck engine. I think the “T” is for a Dodge engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 The “T” most likely means Dodge truck engine. My 1937 Dodge pickup was T38-xxxxxx. You might want to clean up the engine serial number stamping to decode the engine you have. Dodge was 217ci and Plymouth was 201ci in 1937. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Cantrell of Huntington, NY built some station wagon bodies on Chrysler products in that era . They had a decal that usually was mounted on the interior ceiling above the rear seat on the inside roof area. They advertised heavily in the society magazines of that era as the main purchasers of those wagons ( a wagon to go to the station - train station) would buy one for the staff to use on their estates. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
63RedBrier Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Nice find, Zak! Good luck with your new woodie project. Please keep us posted with photos and updates as you progress thru the restoration... Greg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
West Peterson Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Chris Lawrence of Virginia Beach, has a 1937 Dodge woody. Probably identical to your vehicle for all practical purposes. I think he had White Post Restorations do the work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1939_Buick Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Zakman said: The engine number is T510 14638 the best i can make out. Look here-->https://www.t137.com/registry/help/otherengines/otherengines.php Very possible the engine was changed in the last ~85 years What is the length of the head? What is the wheel base? Measure both sides Edited September 9, 2022 by 1939_Buick (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DFeeney Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 What a nice start, You need to join the Plymouth Owners club, It will save you money. Several members own 37 wagons and they have a technical director that knows his stuff. There are still a lot of Plymouth parts around at a reasonable cost. Keep us posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jpage Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I would look for any original or reprinted Plymouth Master Maintenance manual for commercial cars and a copy of a Motor's truck manual for the years covering your car. These will give a lot of technical/mechanical info on your vehicle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
28 Chrysler Posted September 10, 2022 Share Posted September 10, 2022 I saw one a while back and the license plate said "PLYWOOD". 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpwalter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Your vehicle is a Westchester Suburban built by U.S. Body and Forging Co. which moved from Tell City to Frankfort, Ind. after suffering a destructive Ohio River flood in January 1937. It cost $740 in standard form and they built 602 of them. STANDARD EQUIPMENT INCLUDED, forward spare wheel mounting, safety glass windshield, and weather curtains for all doors and windows, but safety glass could also be ordered for the doors and rear glass. The 8-passenger body had 4 side doors, but a choice of rear-end openings was offered. Beside the usual tailgate with lift gate above, there was a combination of tailgate and two swinging doors above. Also, two full length doors in the manner of a panel delivery were available. Courtesy from The Plymouth and DeSoto Story by Don Butler. I have a Plymouth Passenger and Commercial Car Master Parts List and that engine number is nowhere to be found. A 1937 vehicle is designated as either a P3, P3X or P4, P4X. Serial numbers are as follows, P3 1184001-1237460, 9085551-9097493, 3101401-3105159, 9376676-9381157 P3X 1184001-1237460 P4 10101001-10468044, 9190021-9199074, 9950001-9999000, 3162501-3205879, 9339691-9349561 P4X 10101001-10468044 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpwalter Posted September 11, 2022 Share Posted September 11, 2022 Just looked into another Mopar source and Commercial Cars for 1937 were designated PT50 and PT50X with these serial numbers: 8850101-8861664 9206601-9208113 9182701-9185188 Just checking some PT50 engine part numbers with Dodge truck numbers I could not find common part engine numbers. So it looks like Plymouth engines and Dodge engines are engineered differently. Usually I have found that if a part is common to other Chrysler models the part number does not change in the older car parts books. I think it is later on into the 50's when you start seeing superseded numbers. So you will need to find a Plymouth Master Parts Book and a Plymouth 1937 Service Manual for the chassis and engine that covers Commercial vehicles along with regular cars and trucks. If you can find a Plymouth Master Parts List with the red and yellow cover issued on July 1, 1939 it covers PT50 and PT50X and has blow up pictures that may help. Volume 2 has the most info. Volume 1 only has 27 pages pertaining to PT50 Body parts and most of your body parts if not all were supplied by U.S. Body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcapra Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 Your post was unclear. Either this woody came without the drivetrain, or it came with the drivetrain, but not installed. If you are missing the drivetrain, you will probably have to find a parts car or truck. Because there are many, many parts other than just the engine block and the tranny that you will need, such as the clutch linkage, brake linkage, shift linkage, etc. Great coach though. Wood looks like it's good to go! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted September 12, 2022 Share Posted September 12, 2022 He posted the engine that came with it. The first letter of the engine serial number begins with T which is the code for a Dodge truck engine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
46 woodie Posted September 13, 2022 Share Posted September 13, 2022 Zackman, I would suggest that you join the National Woodie Club. There are three, 1937 Plymouth Station Wagon's listed in the directory. The wood on your Wagon looks like it's in pretty good shape, what plans do you have for your Wagon? PS, there is a National Woodie Club site listed under "Other Vehicle Category". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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