Twisted Shifter Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/california-will-no-longer-sell-gas-powered-cars/ar-AA113HCy?ocid=mailsignout&li=BBnb7Kz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 My brother just got back from Los Angeles. Five or six lanes each way, bumper to bumper, making a 40 mile drive a four hour ordeal. Now, imagine all those thousands of cars being electric, and some of them desperately needing a charge, and how many thousands of charging stations would be needed. I just can’t see it. I have nothing against electric cars, but I think it’s a pipe dream to think California can get rid of gasoline and diesel powered vehicles. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 New York has banned the use of home heating oil after 2050 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brass is Best Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 This thread will end in disaster shortly... 6 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f.f.jones Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) This is going to happen sooner or later... I think that there is a great opportunity for investment profit for those with foresight. Gas stations and other businesses are adding electric car charging stations at an increasing rate. The technology is here and those willing to research the future potential and speculate to some degree may very well be rewarded. Just my opinion. (Did you buy Microsoft or Amazon stock ?) Edited August 24, 2022 by f.f.jones (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trimacar Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 3 minutes ago, f.f.jones said: This is going to happen sooner or later... I think that there is a great opportunity for investment profit for those with foresight. Gas stations and other businesses are adding electric car charging stations at an increasing rate. The technology is here and those willing to research the future potential and speculate to some degree may very well be rewarded. Just my opinion. (Did you buy Microsoft or Amazon stock ?) I would agree that it could happen, but only agree conditionally. That plug in the wall needs power generation behind it… The US needs nuclear power plants, which in today’s environment are virtually impossible. Hydroelectric is a good choice, as the US closes such plants, or can’t operate them due to low water levels. Coal plants are…well, never mind. Wind farms? Wow, do some research, sounds great but a disaster from cost, bird kill, oil usage for lubrication, failures, no wind…the list goes on… Solar? Not enough square footage in the world to supply what we need, greatly improved though… Trucks. Power to deliver goods. Whole ‘nuther subject… Yes, there’s a future in EV’s. No, there’s not an easy path to all EV’s, if it indeed exists at all…. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K8096 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 (edited) I guess the gas powered car dealers in Las Vegas & Reno will do great business after 2035 then. And the used car market for them will skyrocket as well. Edited August 24, 2022 by K8096 (see edit history) 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 33 minutes ago, 1937hd45 said: New York has banned the use of home heating oil after 2050 Last I heard it gets COLD🥶 in New York winters... Of course the people who dreamed up this farce will be mostly dead and gone, and won't be held accountable. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John348 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 12 minutes ago, rocketraider said: Last I heard it gets COLD🥶 in New York winters... Of course the people who dreamed up this farce will be mostly dead and gone, and won't be held accountable. Funny thing I live in NY and never heard of it, I would tend to think it is a farce, or some distorted interpretation of what the real story is. I recall reading if you heat your home by oil and convert to a different source you would get a tax rebate on the cost of the conversion. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Will they have to change the location of the Pebble Beach shows? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 1 hour ago, trimacar said: I would agree that it could happen, but only agree conditionally. That plug in the wall needs power generation behind it… The US needs nuclear power plants, which in today’s environment are virtually impossible. Hydroelectric is a good choice, as the US closes such plants, or can’t operate them due to low water levels. Coal plants are…well, never mind. Wind farms? Wow, do some research, sounds great but a disaster from cost, bird kill, oil usage for lubrication, failures, no wind…the list goes on… Solar? Not enough square footage in the world to supply what we need, greatly improved though… Trucks. Power to deliver goods. Whole ‘nuther subject… Yes, there’s a future in EV’s. No, there’s not an easy path to all EV’s, if it indeed exists at all…. I believe the other problem with wind power generators is the relatively short life of the blades and towers and the lack 're-usability'(? ) of the blades in particular. I read somewhere recently that solar panel are ok in theory but as with electric car batteries there are issues in their production. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 24 minutes ago, TAKerry said: Will they have to change the location of the Pebble Beach shows? Just because there will be no gas powered cars sold after 2035 doesn't mean there won't be plenty on the road for quite a few years after that. At least until they ban the use of gas powered vehicles and then maybe much of the population will move to another state?? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 California will become even more like Cuba than it is now. I wonder what the rules will be for bringing used cars into the state. And how that will affect classic cars. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick8086 Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Just FYI Solar Panel Waste: The Dark Side of Clean Energy Tons of solar panels installed in the early 2000s are reaching the end of their lifecycles, posing a serious problem for the industry to contend with. Current solar panel disposal practices are far from being environmentally friendly. Studies have shown the heavy metals in solar panels — namely lead and cadmium — can leach out of the cells and get into groundwater, as well as affect plants. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 11 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
60FlatTop Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Banning! The universal cure. It is so much easier that working out reasonable options. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joe_padavano Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) Calif passed a zero emissions vehicle law in 1990. It was supposed to mandate 10% of the fleet be ZEVs by 2003. Everyone was up in arms then, too. More to the point, there hasn't been a car built this century that I have even the remotest interest in owning. More EVs means more oil for the rest of us. Edited August 25, 2022 by joe_padavano (see edit history) 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTR Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) Looks like another click bait thread with nothing to do with "Antique" cars from Twisted Underwear. I can't help but wonder who pays him/her to create them ? Edited August 25, 2022 by TTR (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_OToole Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 What we need is Thorium power plants. Safe, efficient, and they run on spent fuel rods and nuclear waste. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bhigdog Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 The answer is the pills you dropped in your gas tank and your car would run on water. The oil companies bought that company and destroyed the formula. Or dilitium crystals...bob 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalowed Bill Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Some of you guys talk as if when 2035 rolls around, all the gas powered vehicles will magically disappear and all the gas stations will close lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 3 hours ago, rocketraider said: Last I heard it gets COLD🥶 in New York winters... Of course the people who dreamed up this farce will be mostly dead and gone, and won't be held accountable. The puppets generally will be gone but the puppeteers will be around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 hours ago, nzcarnerd said: Just because there will be no gas powered cars sold after 2035 doesn't mean there won't be plenty on the road for quite a few years after that. At least until they ban the use of gas powered vehicles and then maybe much of the population will move to another state?? Wouldn't be beyond the bounds of possibility. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buick35 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) If they developed an engine that would run on methane the politicians could power all the cars in California for years. Edited August 25, 2022 by Buick35 Spelling (see edit history) 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ford Fan Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 2 hours ago, TTR said: Looks like another click bait thread with nothing to do with "Antique" cars ... ...other than their foreseeable relegation to museums and scrap if a viable solution is not found. 2010 vintage cars will be considered "antiques" by 2035, 25 years! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pfeil Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 59 minutes ago, Buick35 said: If they developed an engine that would run on methane the politicians could power all the cars in California for years. Won't do any good. They don't want any Carbon emissions and methane is a mixture of carbon and hydrogen. In fact, I just don't know what they are going to do about people and animals in general. Not only do we exhale carbon dioxide, but we also sometimes give off a little methane. Cows are really good at a lot of methane! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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