SIRAACA_Editor Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 Looking to ID the four primary cars in view. Looks to be a '33 Plymouth at left, and what appears to be a 1936 Chevrolet and 1940 Dodge in the center. Can we figure out the big boy on the right? Thanks, Paul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted August 24, 2022 Share Posted August 24, 2022 It is hard to find reference photos of cars taken from a rear three quarter view but I think two possible contenders for that big car are either the 1933 Buick Series 90, or a Cadillac or LaSalle which shared the same basic body, or the 1933 Studebaker Speedway President. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keiser31 Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 That oval rear window is a big clue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Does it look like it has Pierce headlights on it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Oval-ends rear window with flattened top and bottom is Pierce 1932-38. I *think* it's a 1933 Pierce, as I *think* I see the abbreviated valances on the front fenders (not on 1932) and the 1931-33 "Arrolite" triplex rear light on the LR fender. The 8 and 12 series (n)36 (that is, 836 and 1236) had an extra 3 inches of wheelbase to 139 for 7-passenger sedans and limousines, which visually lengthened and lowered the body to a surprising degree over the 136" wb. Could be the real Big Boy on the 147" wb. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsmoke Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 (edited) The location of headlights seems wrong for Pierce. The bugeyes were usually centered on front of front fenders then, but OP appears to show conventional headlights, close to rad shell. Of course, an owner could have modified car to bullet headlights! Then again, there may be evidence of a pierce headlight very far out from fender, and the inner light could be a driving light installation, or a reflection of something beyond car on another vehicle. Edited August 25, 2022 by Gunsmoke (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 "Bracket" (i.e., non-integrated) headlights were still available on Pierce in 1933 at an additional charge, but very rare. Studebaker bodies were very similar, near identical, but the long wheelbase argues against Stude. Sometimes we just can't be sure.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 Looks like a 1933 Pierce 1247 from the tail light, but it’s too blurry to be certain. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRAACA_Editor Posted August 25, 2022 Author Share Posted August 25, 2022 Appreciate all of your detailed suggestions. Oh, if only Doc Brown and his DeLorean Time Machine were available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzcarnerd Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 15 hours ago, Grimy said: "Bracket" (i.e., non-integrated) headlights were still available on Pierce in 1933 at an additional charge, but very rare. Studebaker bodies were very similar, near identical, but the long wheelbase argues against Stude. Sometimes we just can't be sure.... The seven passenger Studes in that era 135" wheelbase. EDIT - since I first wrote that I have been advised the car is not a Stude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalowed Bill Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 I think it's a 1933 PA. Until recently I owned one and helped a friend restore his 33 Studebaker President Speedway. The body design is nearly identical, although the body stampings are different. The windshield shape and size is identical. I believe that the fenders are the same, except for the PA headlights. Comparing the fenders right next to one another I couldn't tell the difference. Under the fender welting on the rear fenders of my Pierce was stamped an "S." For years I wondered about the "S," that is until a friend who was a Studebaker expert, and who had once worked for the company, told me that it was the mark of "Standard," a stamping mill in South Bend that Studebaker had a contract with. There were other observed similarities that set the 33's apart from other years, but I better shut up or the Pierce experts might take me to task. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manuel Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 What about the 1933-34 car right in front of the camera? I can't decide if it is a Dodge or Plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRAACA_Editor Posted September 5, 2022 Author Share Posted September 5, 2022 7 hours ago, Manuel said: What about the 1933-34 car right in front of the camera? I can't decide if it is a Dodge or Plymouth. Pretty sure that's a '33 Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Henderson Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 (edited) On 8/24/2022 at 5:03 PM, SIRAACA_Editor said: Looking to ID the four primary cars in view. Looks to be a '33 Plymouth at left, and what appears to be a 1936 Chevrolet and 1940 Dodge in the center. Can we figure out the big boy on the right? Thanks, Paul I believe the car to the right of the '36 Chevy is a '40 DeSoto. Dodges had a dip in the front bumper. Also note the louver-like details beneath the rear of the side hood trim. Edited September 7, 2022 by Dave Henderson (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIRAACA_Editor Posted September 19, 2022 Author Share Posted September 19, 2022 On 9/7/2022 at 11:29 AM, Dave Henderson said: I believe the car to the right of the '36 Chevy is a '40 DeSoto. Dodges had a dip in the front bumper. Also note the louver-like details beneath the rear of the side hood trim. Hello Dave - your points about the '40 Dodge vs. '40 DeSoto look to be correct. Thanks for your eagle-eyed observations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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