Lozierman Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 On 8/17/2022 at 3:23 PM, alsancle said: Nice 1911 Lozier Lakewood Torpedo. I believe this was Dr. Davenport's at one time. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Yes, Lee owned the car from about 1960 to 1985. Then it went to Bill L of Palm Beach. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 hours ago, edinmass said: Yes, Lee owned the car from about 1960 to 1985. Then it went to Bill L of Palm Beach. The Davenport car was a 1913 and had nickel trim, took this photo at the Ridgefield Meet in 1965. The car at Pebble Beach may be the one from New Jersey, same paint combination, it always looked larger than the one Lee and Ann had. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 9 hours ago, alsancle said: AJ, could you pick this one up for me? I'll pay you later... 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) Is Pebble Beach the heaven for classic cars , would suit me strolling round beautiful cars for eternity Edited August 19, 2022 by Pilgrim65 Mistake (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1937hd45 Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 So many great cars this year and so many different auctions. It must be quite a job for a serious buyer to get to the right auction to bid on a wanted car, or do they have a team of bidders at all the auctions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 I pay attention to these cars. 95% of them are automatics. In the last five years, the only two manual transmission cars I’ve seen I’ve been the four-door like this one. Strange. 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 Brand new. Electric. Estimate 90 to 110 K 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walt G Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 thanks for the photos. I love the 1935(?) P-A coupe and the gray Locomobile touring - they are not "over lamped" with bolt on lighting - spot lights at the windshield posts or running boards , fog/driving lights and no one named Ray has to be a pilot to lead the winding way............ the correct period colors on the cars do them justice as well and Mr. Barnum, and Mr. Bailey were not consulted to make them appear better by suggesting other brighter colors. 3 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1935Packard Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, JBP said: This has to be the worst car show I've ever seen. How can these guys expect to stay in business? Not ONE Mustang or Camaro. Disgraceful. And a lot of the cars are so bad that the makers went out of business. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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1937hd45 Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 (edited) The yellow coupe in the background, is that a 1750 Alfa? More photos of it please. Edited August 19, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 10 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: The Davenport car was a 1913 and had nickel trim, took this photo at the Ridgefield Meet in 1965. The car at Pebble Beach may be the one from New Jersey, same paint combination, it always looked larger than the one Lee and Ann had. It’s 100 percent the Davenport car. They put it back to the way it was delivered. No windshield, and painted radiator. They had actual photos of the car back in the 40’s. The nickel shell and windshield were 1950’s restoration add ons. I know all the above from first hand information. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
30DodgePanel Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 1 hour ago, alsancle said: She looks gorgeous without anything on... Great attention to detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Bring your checkbook………RM sale in real time. Watch it on line. Maybe catch a glimpse of me hiding. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, edinmass said: It’s 100 percent the Davenport car. They put it back to the way it was delivered. No windshield, and painted radiator. They had actual photos of the car back in the 40’s. The nickel shell and windshield were 1950’s restoration add ons. I know all the above from first hand information. You are correct, took some internet research but I have things figured out. That photo I took in 1965 is NOT the Davenport Lozier, must be the one from New Jersey. Found this 1974 photo that Henry Austin Clark took that confirms the car at Pebble Beach is the old Davenport car, I like the new look, hope the car does well Sunday. Edited August 20, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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edinmass Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Party night. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ericmac Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I don't know about the rest of you but this page is instantly addictive. I keep hankering for more. I am curious about the SWB Duesenberg chassis. Maybe it is not a public question but I don't think this is one of the two original SSJ chassis is it? I say that as I thought both of those were supercharged. This chassis clearly is not. I know of at least two others that were shortened after the facts I find myself wondering if the shassis a page or two back is one of the recreation chassis or is it an unknown new emergence? It's interesting either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
car crazy Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 On 8/18/2022 at 5:23 PM, edinmass said: Sitting at the FBO in Monterey………lots of attractive ladies here……….you know the type. The ones seen getting on & off private jet aircraft. Most seem to have modified and non authentic coachwork. Plastic and silicone seem to be the order of the day. 😎 Lots of custom coachbuilders here in sunny S. Florida. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim65 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 Yes certainly addictive , although I love the amazing cars , I love the wealth of knowledge shown by some of the posters , very interesting read 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 13 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: The yellow coupe in the background, is that a 1750 Alfa? More photos of it please. Yes Bob. I believe so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, ericmac said: I don't know about the rest of you but this page is instantly addictive. I keep hankering for more. I am curious about the SWB Duesenberg chassis. Maybe it is not a public question but I don't think this is one of the two original SSJ chassis is it? I say that as I thought both of those were supercharged. This chassis clearly is not. I know of at least two others that were shortened after the facts I find myself wondering if the shassis a page or two back is one of the recreation chassis or is it an unknown new emergence? It's interesting either way. It is a regular Model J Chassis. Being displayed by the RM restoration shop. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 56 minutes ago, alsancle said: It is a regular Model J Chassis. Being displayed by the RM restoration shop. AJ: Looks to be their typical high-quality job. Which wheelbase is it: 142.5"? 153.5"? Did they reveal what the coachwork is? Steve Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted August 20, 2022 Author Share Posted August 20, 2022 1 hour ago, alsancle said: Yes Bob. I believe so. I watched the auction last night, almost as good as being there. I thought the 1750 Alfa roadster sold under market value, then read its history, provenance is everything, and there were more than a few cars that were lacking it. That yellow coupe is really nice, back to the catalog to see how it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 I watched also and kept track of the first 30 cars to be sold. The two kids cars did the best as both went over estimate. I think two others went over estimate about 14 were within the estimate and the rest did not make the low end of the estimate. Some were close but still below the low end of what they thought they were worth. I just did it for the first 30. dave s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 (edited) First time in many years most of us here thought the estimates were high. None of us saw anything that went for bargain money. There were two cars that dumped their reserve by millions. I think one of the big collections were probably trying to liquidate to a certain dollar amount. Because once they hit that number, they kept their reserves. Also, there was a bunch of post sale transactions. So many cars are changing hands. Mecum on the other hand seemed dead. Edited August 20, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George K Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 15 hours ago, 1937hd45 said: The yellow coupe in the background, is that a 1750 Alfa? More photos of it please. What are they building? Looks like a circus wagon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted August 20, 2022 Share Posted August 20, 2022 57 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: AJ: Looks to be their typical high-quality job. Which wheelbase is it: 142.5"? 153.5"? Did they reveal what the coachwork is? Steve Steve, it’s a short. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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