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I purchased a new car hauler in Michigan and plan to tow it back to PA. Trouble is, the dealer says I must register the trailer with the Michigan Secretary of State to get a license plate. To get a plate in PA, I must present the trailer at the tag place so they can verify the VIN. I don't want to spend weeks in Michigan to get a license plate I'll only need for the drive back to PA. Any suggestions?

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You do not need to put a plate on something you just bought, as long as you have your paperwork with you if you get stopped on the way back. Just like when you buy a car & need to take it for an out of state inspection before transferring the title, you drive it to the inspection location without a plate.

 

God bless

Bill

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5 hours ago, MochetVelo said:

I purchased a new car hauler in Michigan and plan to tow it back to PA. Trouble is, the dealer says I must register the trailer with the Michigan Secretary of State to get a license plate. To get a plate in PA, I must present the trailer at the tag place so they can verify the VIN. I don't want to spend weeks in Michigan to get a license plate I'll only need for the drive back to PA. Any suggestions?

Every state is different when it comes to retail sales to out of state buyers.

Because the retail location is in the business of selling trailers - I would trust their advice.

If you doubt what they are telling you - contact the Motor Vehicle Division directly in the state you are making a purcase in.

Make sure you insure your new trailer as soon as you buy it.

 

It is absurd to believe you can tow a car hauler trailer on a public road without a license plate & current registration

or a temporary trip permit for each state you are traveling thru ....

 

 

Jim

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The Michigan dealer replied to my inquiry about temporary MI tags:

 

You must be a Michigan resident. Do you want me to mail all the Paperwork to you so you can get a temporary tag from Pennsylvania? You do have the right to transport a new purchased vehicle or trailer without a plate to its home state without any penalty.

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, MochetVelo said:

The Michigan dealer replied to my inquiry about temporary MI tags:

 

You must be a Michigan resident. Do you want me to mail all the Paperwork to you so you can get a temporary tag from Pennsylvania? You do have the right to transport a new purchased vehicle or trailer without a plate to its home state without any penalty.

 

 

 

 

 

Most states will not issue a license plate & registration for a motor vehicle to a non-resident.

Some states will issue temporary tag to operate a motor vehicle on state roads within their jurisdictions.

Whether or not your state will issue you a temporary tag or trip permit to put on a trailer you are towing

varies from state to state.

 

I have purchased (5) new enclosed car hauler trailers in the last (15) years in Georgia, 

Georgia does not charge sales tax to out of state residents.

Georgia issues a " certificate of origin " in lieu of a title.

 

I put my latest plate off the current enclosed car hauler trailer I am using

to tow it back to Ohio where I get a new plate & registration.

 

 

Jim 

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2 hours ago, MochetVelo said:

The Michigan dealer replied to my inquiry about temporary MI tags:

 

 You do have the right to transport a new purchased vehicle or trailer without a plate to its home state without any penalty.

 

 

 

 

Exactly!..... It is ABSURD to think you cannot take your car OR trailer directly to your home state/residence from where you purchased it without a plate!  As long as you have your paperwork with you, it will not be a problem! I have done it DOZENS of times & the couple of times I got stopped, I showed the cop I just purchased it & was taking it home....They all said "Have a Nice Day"

 

God Bless

Bill

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This just in from PennDOT in reply to my query:

 

 

Thank you for contacting PennDOT’s Driver and Vehicle Services.

 

The trailer would not be permitted on roads in Pennsylvania with registration.

 

You may be able to get an in-transit tag for the trailer. For information regarding those tags, please contact the Michigan Department of Transportation at 517-322-1460 or access their website at www.michigan.gov/mdot.

 

 

 

Interesting situatiuon. Michigan does not issue temporary tags or transit tags, and PA won't give me tags until the trailer is in PA.

 

Phil

 

 

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Some years ago I ordered a custom built Forest River enclosed car hauler.

The dealer was Trailerworld in Kentucky, and the trailer was built in Indiana.

The dealer emailed, and then sent me a hard copy photo of the VIN.

I brought the paperwork, including MSO, Bill of Sale, and both a photo, and a pencil tracing of the VIN (anal retentive?) to the HQ for Louisiana Office of Motor Vehicles, but it could vave been done at a local office, or by mail.

They issued my permanent license plate which I brought along when the trailer was ready for pick up - no issues!

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The title agency gave me Form MV-41 (Verification of Vehicle Identification Number) to send to the trailer dealer. A licensed mechanic fills in the VIN with their signature. They implied this might result in my obtaining a tag. We'll see! 

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I get long term tag from Maine though I live in MD.  There are services up there that handle everything and can keep you abreast of various state regs.  Not all states allow for Maine trailer registration but it works in Maryland.  I think the last tag I got was for 10 years and I think I could have gone longer.  

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1 hour ago, Avanti Bill said:

I get long term tag from Maine though I live in MD.  There are services up there that handle everything and can keep you abreast of various state regs.  Not all states allow for Maine trailer registration but it works in Maryland.  I think the last tag I got was for 10 years and I think I could have gone longer.  

An interesting idea, Bill. Not sure if I can do this in Pennsylvania, however. I assume sales tax must be paid, for example.

 

Phil

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Couple of observations:

 

First, why would anyone buy any vehicle for public road use before confirming any and all operational regulations related to that vehicle ???

On 8/2/2022 at 6:53 AM, Trulyvintage said:

I put my latest plate off the current enclosed car hauler trailer I am using

to tow it back to Ohio where I get a new plate & registration.

While I'm not familiar with Georgia nor Ohio state regulations, I somehow suspect attaching a license plate from vehicle A (with a certain VIN) to another, vehicle B (with a different VIN), would probably be considered illegal by most or perhaps all states in the union.

If not, why would anyone owning multiple vehicles, license/register (or insure ?) more than one of them, instead of just swapping that plate/registration (& insurance) between it and all other vehicles ?

As far as I know Certifications of Origins, Registrations and Titles are all linked/referenced to a specific VIN, i.e. Vehicle Identification Number.

Same with insurance. 

 

Only reasonably accurate answers to OP's questions are likely to be received from government authorities overseeing related regulations, i.e. Department of Motor Vehicles or State Police, a.k.a. Highway Patrol, etc, not some random online discussion forum with umpteen million "opinions".

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This is the service I use and I'm sure they would know the rules for PA and have always answered any of my questions over the phone.  As the trailer will be titled in Maine there would be no PA title tax, in MD this saves 6%.  This works in MD but not sure if it works in PA.  Link below.

 

https://staabagency.com/

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