Daniel Scully Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 Picked this up from the original owners, solid needs some tlc. 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted June 21 Share Posted June 21 I love your new car, awesome find, that will definitely turn some heads at car shows and when driving! Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted June 21 Author Share Posted June 21 It is a mate to my limo, also by Flxible 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 You broke my heart with the 1962 Limo, I am so jealous. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y-JobFan Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Looks like a Flexette Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Wednesday at 06:17 PM Author Share Posted Wednesday at 06:17 PM (edited) Yes, it is. Flxible from 61-64 moved the windshield out to help give extra height to the roof, they called it the hidden 2.5 inches. It gives it a nice transition from the top of the windshield to the roof. Edited Wednesday at 07:27 PM by Daniel Scully Add Txt (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Thursday at 04:22 AM Author Share Posted Thursday at 04:22 AM This has a drifting of the front end from left to right going into a long turn about 60-65. All I have done so far are shocks, strut arm bushings and service the wheel bearings and replace the tires as it has been sitting for 11 years. Need to chk the front end out. Guessing center link, idler maybe pitman arm? It looks like this year has 2 different suppliers for some of the parts. Is there any good source for these? It looks like either Saginaw or Trw components are used, is that correct? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted Thursday at 02:11 PM Share Posted Thursday at 02:11 PM I'm glad to hear Oldsmobile wasn't the only one to do that steering linkage supplier mess. In Olds' case they went one step beyond and have a 1st design and 2nd design. You have to make sure to get the right center link or it will hit the oil pan. Sheesh 🙄. Check with @mobileparts here on the forums. Odds are Craig will have the USA-made parts and he can tell you how to ID them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM Author Share Posted Thursday at 09:41 PM (edited) Tried to do a search for that contact info, it says I do not have enough content yet?? Can you give me that person contact info? Thanks Edited Thursday at 09:49 PM by Daniel Scully (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rocketraider Posted Thursday at 10:01 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:01 PM Craig, mobileparts, 516-485-1935 Good to do business with. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Friday at 01:57 AM Author Share Posted Friday at 01:57 AM Another question on this. It has no cowl tag only the tag from Flxible. It does have vin on the a pillar , the 4 digit Flxible tag was used for the vin on registration . I believe Buick at one time shipped stripped chassis to Flxible any reason this would not have a cowl tag? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y-JobFan Posted Friday at 04:58 AM Share Posted Friday at 04:58 AM 2 hours ago, Daniel Scully said: Another question on this. It has no cowl tag only the tag from Flxible. It does have vin on the a pillar , the 4 digit Flxible tag was used for the vin on registration . I believe Buick at one time shipped stripped chassis to Flxible any reason this would not have a cowl tag? Thanks Probably because once Flxible had the stripped down chassis they mixed and matched Buick parts from various models to suit the Build so it wasn't a pure Electra, or Wildcat etc. Tail lights even came off the Specials some years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted Friday at 11:16 AM Share Posted Friday at 11:16 AM (edited) It seems odd that the DMV would have used the Flxible S/N rather than the Buick VIN on the A-pillar. I guess both numbers are unique, so it shouldn't matter, but the cowl tag is simply screwed-on... Edited Friday at 11:17 AM by EmTee (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Bruce aka First Born Posted Friday at 01:36 PM Share Posted Friday at 01:36 PM 2 hours ago, EmTee said: It seems odd that the DMV would have used the Flxible S/N rather than the Buick VIN on the A-pillar. I guess both numbers are unique, so it shouldn't matter, but the cowl tag is simply screwed-on... Cowl and A pillar tag are screwed on in 1950, maybe other years. Ben Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmTee Posted Friday at 04:04 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:04 PM 2 hours ago, Ben Bruce aka First Born said: Cowl and A pillar tag are screwed on in 1950, maybe other years. Yep, true. I was just say'n the actual VIN tag on this car is welded to the A-pillar, so wondering why that wasn't used for the original title. Water over the dam today - I wouldn't bother changing it at this point; that's another can of worms... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Friday at 06:50 PM Author Share Posted Friday at 06:50 PM When I changed the title into my name, I was thinking oh crap this might be a problem.. But they said nothing nor did I. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted Saturday at 10:59 AM Share Posted Saturday at 10:59 AM (edited) On 6/22/2022 at 11:22 PM, Daniel Scully said: This has a drifting of the front end from left to right going into a long turn about 60-65. All I have done so far are shocks, strut arm bushings and service the wheel bearings and replace the tires as it has been sitting for 11 years. Need to chk the front end out. Guessing center link, idler maybe pitman arm? It looks like this year has 2 different suppliers for some of the parts. Is there any good source for these? It looks like either Saginaw or Trw components are used, is that correct? Thanks Buick name for the steering components was : Saginaw" and "Thompson" and used from 1961 thru 1965, some years ago I did a shop tech session on the steering and suspension of a 1961 Buick Electra for our local Buick club meeting, I will see if I dig out the old paperwork and let you know. Do you need the Buick part numbers? and if so which items do you need part numbers for? Bob EDIT: see this for description of which type you have : See Olds service guild bulletin May 1963. and Buick service bulletin #65-163 from 1965. Edited Sunday at 02:51 PM by NailheadBob update (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted Saturday at 01:47 PM Share Posted Saturday at 01:47 PM 2 hours ago, NailheadBob said: Buick name for the steering components was : Saginaw" and "Thompson" and used from 1961 thru 1965, some years ago I did a shop tech session on the steering and suspension of a 1961 Buick Electra for our local Buick club meeting, I will see if I dig out the old paperwork and let you know. Do you need the Buick part numbers? and if so which items do you need part numbers for? Bob EDIT: see this for description of which type you have : See Olds service guild bulletin May 1963. Well I want to thank Bob for this lesson. I have no experience with the years in this topic so this is new to me, and very interesting information. Thanks for the post Bob! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Saturday at 06:25 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 06:25 PM Great info. Thanks, looking at the front end on the 64, everything has grease fittings other than the idler arm and pitman arm. Been changed at some point? I need a center link, idler and strut arm bushings. Thanks for all the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted Saturday at 09:15 PM Share Posted Saturday at 09:15 PM (edited) I found my paper work that I mentioned in earlier post, "Saginaw" was used on NON power steering cars. (most of the time) "Thompson" was used on POWER STEERING cars. (most of the time) Center Link ( Rod, Intermediate )Buick called it, #1350788 "Thompson" fits 1962 and 1963 / # 1364902 "Thompson" fits 1964 Idler (Arm, steering idler) Buick called it, # 1350789 "Thompson" fits 1962 and 1964 Strut arm bushings (Bushing, brake reaction rod) Buick called it fits 1961 thru 1968 Buickfarm.com has NOS in stock Bob EDIT: I was at the Buick Club of America National Car Show and Swap Meet last week in Lisle, Il Swap meet vendor has 1 grille with out emblem, and 1 grille with emblem, both in great condition and for a 1963 Buick. Edited yesterday at 01:08 AM by NailheadBob update (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM Author Share Posted Saturday at 10:03 PM (edited) Again, thanks for all the help and clarification. Would you have the pt#s I need for the idler and center link for my 64? Found a center link on eBay appears correct? https://www.ebay.com/itm/274774885622?hash=item3ff9dc04f6:g:A0sAAOSw20xghztC Edited Saturday at 10:14 PM by Daniel Scully Add Txt (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted Sunday at 02:35 PM Share Posted Sunday at 02:35 PM @Daniel Scully Double check your VIN number, I know your photo from Flexible shows "64", your car looks like front and rear a 1963, parts are not the same from 1963 to 1964. Here is a link to find your Buick VIN: https://www.buickheritagealliance.org/index.php/restoration/identify/locate_numbers The link you posted part number does not match, Canadian parts books and numbers are different. After you find your Buick VIN, please post it here. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Conley Posted Sunday at 06:20 PM Share Posted Sunday at 06:20 PM Don't know but that looks like 1964 front end sheet metal to me. The rear end sheetmetal was the same for the 1963 AND 1964 Estate Wagons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Sunday at 06:25 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 06:25 PM Vin Pic. Thanks This gets stranger, this is a pic of warranty plate. The vin on the a pillar is the same but does not have the last leter z in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Sunday at 06:29 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 06:29 PM 6 minutes ago, Brad Conley said: Don't know but that looks like 1964 front end sheet metal to me. The rear end sheetmetal was the same for the 1963 AND 1964 Estate Wagons. Flxible used the 63 Bumper on the 64, s . This was based on a4dr . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted Sunday at 07:14 PM Share Posted Sunday at 07:14 PM The 64 Estate wagon used the taillights from the 63 Estate wagon. The front grill and fenders were the 64 parts. This car looks to be a 64. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted Sunday at 07:30 PM Author Share Posted Sunday at 07:30 PM (edited) The center link I bought on eBay is a 1364901, which according to an old flat rate book I have is for power steering for a 300 engine. It shows 1364902 center link for a 401 engine with power steering which I believe is what I need. Edited Sunday at 07:30 PM by Daniel Scully Add Txt (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM Share Posted Sunday at 09:05 PM My bad, sorry about my confusion to all, the main thing is you are getting your parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM Share Posted yesterday at 12:58 AM (edited) @Daniel Scully I verified your part number against Buick Master Chassis Parts Book and # 1364902 (Thompson Type) is what it lists fits 46-4800 series with P/S for 1964. I learned something new today with your new/used car. Bob @Jim Cannon sells a C/D with Buick Master Chassis and Body parts books and also includes dealer service bulletins with it, coverage 1963 thru 1965 for thinking $25.00 Edited yesterday at 01:11 AM by NailheadBob update (see edit history) 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usnavystgc Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 16 hours ago, NailheadBob said: I verified your part number against Buick Master Chassis Parts Book Shoot, I wish I had your skills with these books. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel Scully Posted 20 hours ago Author Share Posted 20 hours ago Did not realize I had a parts book, there is a note in there that says to go to the illustration section that shows how to tell the 2 apart. I do not have the illustrations but found this online. =Please Note: For 1961 - 1964 Buick Full Size PS, 1961 - 1962 Oldsmobile Full Size PS/MS and 1963 - 1964 Oldsmobile Full Size PS, state if steering linkage is Saginaw type or TRW type. In order to determine type, measure the pitman arm end center link stud at the end of the taper nearest the threads. Saginaw measures .587, TRW measures .556. Mine measures .561 which is the same as the pt#1364902 I bought on Ebay My parts book shows power steering with either, so I believe the only way to know for sure is measure the stud size. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NailheadBob Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago I feel sorry for GM parts counter person back in the 60's to have to go through this for common steering linkage parts on a regular basis. I wonder what the return policy was for the consumer, and the manufacturer, I would bet a large percentage would be returned, because wrong part. Bob 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnD1956 Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago I feel sorry for the people assembling the books. I cannot imagine how they kept all these part numbers unique and up to date when new parts need to be numbered and when availability is terminated. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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