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1927 8-80 Locomobile with Lycoming HDL engine, How rare is this car? Need help figuring out a few things.


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Hello all,

I have a 27 Locomobile. My grandfather (Buddy Beard from Tulsa) restored the car in about 1973, it has been in the shop at my house for at least 50 years. After my dad passed I was left the car and bought the house/shop it has been stored in.

Locomobile 8-80

Model 80

car no 588

Engine Lycoming HDL34349

 3 things I am most curious about are is it a super rare 1 of a kind (read below). What is the body called? it though it would be a roadster but I don't see any others called roadsters, I don't think the top folds down all the way (never tried). What is it worth?

 I was told growing up that this car is very rare, 1 of 3 left in the world. After doing a lot of research I am more lost than before LOL. I think mine might be a special order or the only one left period. There are a couple that look a little similar but not exactly like mine (Think they are 26 or 27's with wood wheels). I was told that in the early 2000’s My dad had a Locomobile expert come look at the car and he said that it theoretically does not exist. I the title of my car says 1927 and the Lycoming HDL motor that’s in it was not available until 1928 but the serial # and car # are right for the this car or something to that effect. It might have been a experimental test car.?.? I am including a picture of the bill of sale I found from Kansas with the body, engine numbers.

  Does anyone know of any resources for me to find more out about my car? My dad passed 7 years ago and I am ready to get this old girl going again. I have contacted the Bridgeport library and they have a wealth of resources that will help all of us rare Loco owners. They found a 1927 8-80 owners/ maintance manual, I paid to have it scanned. It with a lot of other Locomobile information/ manuals can be found here to look at now: http://hdl.handle.net/11134/110002:locomobile

They mainly have data up to Durant buying Loco including a log of every loco made from 1903 to 1915! They dont have much on locos after Durant took them over, my 27 manual was a fluke..

As far as getting it going again all I need is the linkages that go from the steering colum to the dist. and carb. I have the rods that run down the column, any help, even picures of what they are supposed to look like would be a GREAT HELP!! The water pump has been off the car for probably 30 years, there was a problem with the one that was on the car. I have 2 water pumps that look the same except the inside is a little different (see pics) any one know which one its supposed to have and if I need one, where would I even begin to look? a scan from a service manual would be a lot of help on the water pump. It is a old restoration, the paint on the fenders did not bond well (something about bad primer?) it has been like that since a month after it was painted. I have all the parts to put it back together and now the time to.

 Things I would love to find out about it if at all possible is, How rare is it? Where to find any lineage such as previous owners, Original colors of paint/ interior, ect.

How much might be worth? I understand its a rare car which doesn't mean its worth more unless it's desirable, I have no idea how ti figure out how desirable a rare car is. (no real interest in selling it, If someone made me a offer I would consider it), Just curios for insurance purposes and if anyone did make me a offer.

The only car I have seen like it was the "sawmill Loco frame" I tried to buy it for a parts car but could not get it shipping set up before someone else bought it. I posted pics of mine a long time ago on the sawmill loco, post. I am re-posting some (looks the same) and some new stuff here. If anyone has any info on the "sawmill Loco" I would love to buy for parts or at least the carb, dist. linkages.

 2 of the scans were in the envelope with the title and recites, they are for a different loco, but still interesting.

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Hi,

I bought the "saw mill" Locomobile. I believe that it was a very late 8-88 Locomobile. I bought it primarily for the water pump/ generator drive to complete a 8-80 engine for possible rebuild. I have a bare bones 8-80 chassis for a possible speedster project. The carburetor went to Australia, it was a 2 barrel updraft that appears to be different from the one on your car. I believe that your car is extremely rare and that it is an important piece of automotive history that should be reassembled  and enjoyed. It is very likely that the top will fold down on your car and I would call the body style a Convertible Coupe or a Cabriolet. Ben 1906046589_IMG_20151009_1312362521.jpg.b945ffdd6d87e3276ab4878ccc3735ba.jpg

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On 6/12/2022 at 8:46 PM, Loco 90 said:

Hi,

I bought the "saw mill" Locomobile. I believe that it was a very late 8-88 Locomobile. I bought it primarily for the water pump/ generator drive to complete a 8-80 engine for possible rebuild. I have a bare bones 8-80 chassis for a possible speedster project. The carburetor went to Australia, it was a 2 barrel updraft that appears to be different from the one on your car. I believe that your car is extremely rare and that it is an important piece of automotive history that should be reassembled  and enjoyed. It is very likely that the top will fold down on your car and I would call the body style a Convertible Coupe or a Cabriolet. Ben 1906046589_IMG_20151009_1312362521.jpg.b945ffdd6d87e3276ab4878ccc3735ba.jpg

Do you need the linkages from the bottom of the steering column to the dist. and carb? I will buy them now! That's all that is Missing on mine. Look at the picture I posted on the drivers side of the engine. If they are not the same, I can modify them or remake them to what I need. I am trying to figure out how to send you my phone number in a private message. E-mail me at jasonbeard1@hotmail.com

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Jason,  that is a very rare car and is super cool.    You probably know the Loco history, but the eight cylinder cars were Locomobile's way of transitioning from the older expensive massive t-head Model 48s.

 

I started this thread a while ago and we didn't turn up much.

 

 

 

The colors on your car were probably chosen during the restoration in the 70s when all the period darker colors were changed to lighter shades.   As a convertible coupe it is probably the most desirable body.  

 

I'll send you a PM with a what I think the value might be.

 

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On 6/14/2022 at 4:28 PM, ak said:

Post more photos for the curious (like me).

 

I have to move my mom this weekend, I am going to pull her out and give her a bath next Monday/ Tuesday. I will take a lot of pics and post them. It is rare and I want to help anyone with a similar project with pictures. I am trying to find a bunch of other pics of the 16 cars we had. We had a early 1900's little serial #3 that Louis Chevrolet help build (was being rebuilt). Kissel golfers special/ Golden bug, man hated working on the brakes of that car, First car with hydraulic brakes, constantly repairing them! Dad sold it for way to cheap! Almost mint, original Pierce Arrow, My brother has it now. Late 30's- early 40's original Packard with less than 1,000 miles, still smelled new inside. A Mint original 20's Lindell Lincoln that was 100% original, they used our Lincoln to judge other Lincoln by. I wonder what happened to these cars now days. The Little was the only one I had a emotional connection to. I have tried to find info about it, it doesn't exist.

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Jason,

Never say never!  You just don't know what is just around the next corner.  As good as the internet and these chat groups are......we only touch a portion of the owners or enthusiasts.....period.  Some fellows don't do internet, some fellows won't and more than a few are actually old school and only do phone or snail mail.  Some obscure collector may at this moment wondering what to do with your "Little", but may not have a good idea how to reach the interested public.  Keep trying and never forget to mention names you know.  I hope you end up with a hot lead!

Al

PS: checking under every rock has sure helped me locating the scarce Locomobile parts.

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Hello John,

I tried to save and open under a different format but was unable to do so.  If I can get back to the original post I will give it another try.  This Locomobile convert. coupe is actually quite nice looking for a late series Locmobile 8 cylinder.

Al

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