alsancle Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 5 hours ago, nick8086 said: Did the 1917 Hudson Indy Racer car run this year? https://www.greatrace.com/news/great-race-2022-day-4.html I’ll go look on the list later today and let you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Yesterday we finished in 69th position for the day. So we’re gradually getting better each day. You definitely learn a lot every single time you go out. For example, I know I was not correctly compensating for the curves, which was contributing to us being consistently late. Also it’s taking me four calibration runs to get the speedometer to where I think it’s exactly right. He started off with it slow by almost an hour and a half an hour, and today I expected to be dead on. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 With 130 cars, usually spread out over four hotels, and over two hours of starting time, Every day I see another car that I didn’t notice before. There was a blue nova with cragars that I absolutely saw, but this white one is new to me. And it’s a stick! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Is this the Hudson? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Here are the '16 & '17 Hudson competitors at Wellsville, New York lunch break. Sounded absolutely great under heavy acceleration! 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 AJ, I'm amazed that you have the time to visit the Forum and to keep us posted.. Thank you/ Here is something to look up in the rules before you need to know it. "How to file a time delay" . You never know when you'll need it. On the 1993 GAR I had the ESPN Camera in my back seat recording when a tractor pulling a hay bailer pulled out in front of us on a super narrow road. That footage made the one hour special on the race shown on TV, complete with hillbilly music to make us look like hicks. We measured the time we lost, got the numbers of other cars effected and filed a time delay at the end of the day. Got a decent score for that leg when they adjusted our time delay. After the show was on TV, Dale Bell called me and said he saw the show and wanted me to navigate for him in his 1935 Miller Ford Indy Racer the next year. He said if I could keep my cool with that driver in that event he needed me. I stayed with the Airflow. My rule is the Navigator is always right! Keep reporting, it's like therapy for me. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff_a Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Good luck and Godspeed AJ! You had a picture of my collegiate days car...a '62 Nash Metro...alas you're not in it. A car like that you wear, but Eddie from Mass has never had a chick magnet like one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-g-g0 Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 Was at the Studebaker Museum today for over three hours and no sign of AJ & Tom! Not sure all cars were in but I had to leave. Hope all is well and no major issues! Did see one car come in on a roll back. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 22, 2022 Share Posted June 22, 2022 I’ll post more later tonight, but here’s our first perfect leg. Which won us the stickers. And we have another leg that was off one second. So I would say we’re getting better. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bloom Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Congratulations.......There really is no substitute for experience and practice. you and Tom are figuring this out. And nailing it. Thanks for keeping us posted, you must be crazy busy with this undertaking while keeping in contact with family/friends/life. We appreciate the insight, photos, humor and chance to ride "virtually" with you on the race. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Congrats on the Ace! That had to make you feel good! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-g-g0 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Congrats! Sorry I missed your arrival! Keep up the good work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bloom Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Yikes, that is a perspective of The Great Race that I really hadn’t given much thought to. Be safe and I hope things are cooling as designed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, John Bloom said: Yikes, that is a perspective of The Great Race that I really hadn’t given much thought to. Be safe and I hope things are cooling as designed. Stupid me thought we were all on back roads from Rhode Island to North Dakota. If I showed you some of the cars flying down that highway in that traffic it would blow your mind. Imagine being on an 8 lane Highway in a Nash metropolitan surrounded by tractor trailers. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Downtown Plainfield Illinois 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Now this is the kind of packard 120 I want to use on this race. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 2 minutes ago, alsancle said: Now this is the kind of packard 120 I want to use on this race. Supercharged and intercooled. Nice! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Bloom Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 33 minutes ago, alsancle said: Stupid me thought we were all on back roads from Rhode Island to North Dakota. If I showed you some of the cars flying down that highway in that traffic it would blow your mind. Imagine being on an 8 lane Highway in a Nash metropolitan surrounded by tractor trailers. Me too. I must be naive. I thought "scenic root off the beaten path through quaint old towns" You are giving lots of us an education. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 11 hours ago, alsancle said: Chicago? I assumed the route would skirt south on US-30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 21 minutes ago, 58L-Y8 said: Chicago? I assumed the route would skirt south on US-30. You would assume wrong Steve! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) Official start times each day vary between 730, 8 o’clock, and 830. The official start time, is not the start of the timed portion of the rally. That is somewhere else from the host hotel. What happens is, at the check-in the night before when you get your score, you are given your random start position for the following day. For today we are position 104. So our start time from hotel is 9:14. That means that at exactly 8:14 I will be handed the days instructions. Typically I will take 20 minutes to update as much as I can, and we will leave 10 minutes early for the official start position. Once there I will continue updating the instructions. And I usually won’t finish all of them until lunch, but get enough done to cover the morning legs. Tire warm-up and speedometer calibration happen on the way to the starting point. So we are on a highway going 50 miles an hour for 20 to 30 minutes with a number of intermediate splits. After four different calibrations, I have the speedometer to within a second error per hour. The crowd you see, are the racers waiting for their minute to pick up their instructions. Most are waiting there a few minutes ahead of time. Occasionally some people come up five minutes late. So are more casual than others. Edited June 23, 2022 by alsancle (see edit history) 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
58L-Y8 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 7 minutes ago, alsancle said: You would assume wrong Steve! Hey AJ, the race organizers wanted you to experience all the "joys" America has to offer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Seeing the above photos is giving me flashbacks……….to quantitive methods and statistics class. A time and place in my life when there was no joy…………and this is supposed to be fun? It seems to be right up there with having your wisdom teeth removed. Best of luck boys……..seems you have the hang of it now. 👍 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SC38dls Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 12 hours ago, alsancle said: The wonderful traffic going around the south side of Lake Michigan is always like that in the morning and evening rush hours of 7 am - 12 and 1 pm until 7 usually! The speeds can still be anywhere from 2 mph to 70mph with traffic like that, it’s always been crazy. Have fun AJ the trip north will get more interesting than the south side of Chicago. dave s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Having spent most of my 'highway' travel time between Philly and So. Fla traversing I-95, In my opinion travelling westward is somewhat easy. I have driven to Chicago a few times, taking the PA turnpike to Ohio, heading north towards South Bend etc. I was pleasantly surprised that to me it seemed like no one was on the road. Yes, Chi area is busy but the rest seemed like a walk in the park. If you havent done so, try going from Bmore to Fredericksburg any morning of the week!! AJ, I have been following the scores on the official website and congrats to you and Tom for making a steady rise in the standings. Keep up the good work! I have to agree with Ed though, looks like you are deeply engrossed in a geometry exam! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Dobbin Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 That photo with the trucks had to be on a section of the race called a "Transit". A off the clock section to move us into or around a city. Instruction would say "30 minute Transit to cover 15 miles, allow 25 minutes" Usually we drove 50 MPH or better due to traffic flow and were always ready for a time delay. Secondary roads into & thru cites always involve heavy traffic and many traffic lights, consequently they used the Transit to get us in and out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pkhammer Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I have to be with Ed on this one. I can see where the challenge and competition would be fun for some and I think that's great if that's what you enjoy. I'm way too laid back for that sort of a challenge. The photos Ed posted just now cruising thru the forest or along the coast, left arm resting on the door sill, taking in the scenery, smelling the fresh air and making stops at my leisure.......................Ahhhhhh!! I wish I was there instead of here in my office!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1937hd45 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) General Great Race question, if AJ and the 1939 Packard have a "Perfect" day would it be possible for a 1915 whatever to maintain the same speeds? Wouldn't it be a lot easier in an airconditioned big block Chevy of whatever the cut off date is? Edited June 23, 2022 by 1937hd45 (see edit history) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryB Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Thanks for posting your insights to this event. So many of your rules and timekeeping methods were what I experienced in my off-road motorcycle competition events. Your transit time was our short bursts of free time between sections of difficult terrain. Imagine if Christopher Columbus thought a few hot laps around the harbor was all the excitement and adventure he desired in his life or the Wright brothers were content with a quick glide over a sand dune. I give you a big 👍for taking on the challenge. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) Bob, there is a handicap based on the year of the car. The year is based on the newest component in the car. Our handicap is .85, or something like that. So that gets multiplied into your time, it to reduce your time. I 1915 car would have a much better handicap than us. Edited June 23, 2022 by alsancle (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 So, the blues Mobile crapped out a couple stops ago. And they went out and bought a late model Jaguar and painted it in the blues motif. And put the loudspeaker on top. And are running the course from the back. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I thought I read a blip within the last couple of years from the girls that are near the top right now (cant remember if theyre sisters or cousins). They are driving a 1932 Ford Coupe. Like AJ mentioned the earlier the car the greater the handicap. I think they said that a 1932 car is right at the sweet spot as far as the perfect car to compete in mechanically and for the handicap. It does look like a lot of work, but I would enjoy doing this just as much as a controlled group cruise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAKerry Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 That Jag is ridiculous!! I would give them an A for effort but once theyre out..................... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wayne sheldon Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 I am laughing with a momentary delight myself! "The Blues Brothers" was not my kind of movie. It had its moments, some neat interactions, and deep comedy beyond simple description. And I am very glad that I did watch the movie (way back when it was a big hit for most), just so I can appreciate its iconic social points. For this "car" in this race? To take a non-qualifying modern car after the abuse of the "race" car knocks it out of the race? Paint it up and decorate it with the silly roof pieces? Just to finish out the contest "in style"? Fits right in with the "We're on a mission never say die" theme of the movie! I love it! Did I pass my "social awareness" understanding the movie quiz? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edinmass Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, alsancle said: Bob, there is a handicap based on the year of the car. The year is based on the newest component in the car. Our handicap is .85, or something like that. So that gets multiplied into your time, it to reduce your time. I 1915 car would have a much better handicap than us. Personally, I always thought your handicap was your personality. 😝 Edited June 23, 2022 by edinmass (see edit history) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldsmobile 83 Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 Thanks AJ for your postings on this race. It has been very exciting to follow your progress. One quick question, I am going to be going to Duluth, MN tomorrow and wonder what time the cars will begin to arrive tomorrow afternoon/evening? I look forward to seeing some of the cars I have seen in your postings. Thanks, Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 43 minutes ago, Oldsmobile 83 said: Thanks AJ for your postings on this race. It has been very exciting to follow your progress. One quick question, I am going to be going to Duluth, MN tomorrow and wonder what time the cars will begin to arrive tomorrow afternoon/evening? I look forward to seeing some of the cars I have seen in your postings. Thanks, Tim Hey Tim, I honestly have no idea. Typically the local towns have the schedule, or you can look on the Great Race website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 1 hour ago, edinmass said: Personally, I always thought your handicap was your personality. 😝 Close, it’s actually my friends. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alsancle Posted June 23, 2022 Share Posted June 23, 2022 We were racing with these guys and lost. I’m serious. 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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