Wire rim id

[ssl78]

I picked up some parts that are supposed to be from Auburns, Plymouths, Hudsons from the 30s and 40s. I need some help identifying. I will list a few in a couple of posts since combing parts is not allowed.

 Rims I can not seem to find any others with out lug nut holes

[1912Staver]

Probably Auburn. No lug nut holes because they are held to the hubs by the big center nut on these cars. Similar to British Sports Cars of the 1950's and 60's.

[auburnseeker]

They do look like the wheels on my 31 Auburn 898.  Ironically same color,  or close. 

[sagefinds]

They are Dayton wire wheels,often called Dayton Dentals since the drive lugs look like teeth. They are held on by a screw-on hubcap,on race cars the hubcap had wings or tits that could be knocked on and off quickly with a hammer of sorts.

[DCarter]

As @sagefindssays, they are what is known as Dayton dental drives and look to be #30, which is how Dayton dental drives are 'sized', I believe most commonly used on Auburns. Each corner of a car requires 3 main components, those being a hub, a wheel, and a knockoff nut. Each hub is specifically left or right and front or rear, so all unique to each corner. Nuts are either left or right. Wheels are all same. 

Again, as @sagefindssays, often OE quickchange wheel installation was accompanied by a hex nut, but the Auburns are one of the exceptions, using a 2-eared nut for that application. Attached picture shows toothed hubs and 2-eared Auburn nuts. 

Edited June 1, 2022 by DCarter (see edit history)

[ssl78]

Thank you, great pictures showing how they go together. I wonder if there is any value without having all the pieces.

[DCarter]

As someone who has pieced together a few sets of Dayton #10 and Buffalo #3 and #4 knockoff wheels/hubs/nuts, I'd have to think there's someone out there who'd be interested, even just for spares. I even bought some lock ring #30 Daytons just for the hoops and lock rings, thinking I might could use them with my #10 centers, as the spoke count and lacing pattern is the same. Haven't tested that theory yet. 

I'd try the Auburn folks first, as that's your most likely source of interested parties. Racecar folks could be another possibility, though #10 Daytons were the common size there.

[ssl78]

Thank you, do you know of a good forum for Auburns I really could not find one ?

[DCarter]

I do not, though there is an ACD forum here. 

https://forums.aaca.org/forum/51-auburn-cord-duesenberg-acd/

[ssl78]

Ok thanks again

 

[ssl78]

Auburnseeker, I tried messaging you about the rims but they will not let me message yet. I am located in a suburb of Chicago you can call me at 630 333 8333 john